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  1. #31
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    I shout for pugs to join us all the time and I frequently loosen my restrictions so I can hurry up and get into coil. If you are too picky with party composition in a pug you are going to be waiting in wineport for a long time. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but groups who do that are probably idiots to begin with.

    And you're right BLM really doesn't have it tough. Try pugging as a WAR tank before the patch, people seriously think they can't do 1-4 with a war tank even as off tank. They are the ones who are really going to love the changes.

    For the record my static runs a WAR tank purely because he is incredibly skilled and I'm happy to pick him over 90% of the PLD on the server. Merit over composition.
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  2. #32
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    I shout for pugs to join us all the time and I frequently loosen my restrictions so I can hurry up and get into coil. If you are too picky with party composition in a pug you are going to be waiting in wineport for a long time. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but groups who do that are probably idiots to begin with.

    And you're right BLM really doesn't have it tough. Try pugging as a WAR tank before the patch, people seriously think they can't do 1-4 with a war tank even as off tank. They are the ones who are really going to love the changes.

    For the record my static runs a WAR tank purely because he is incredibly skilled and I'm happy to pick him over 90% of the PLD on the server. Merit over composition.
    Completly agree with what you say here. Esp. the WAR part. I have also had the luck/honor to run with a great WAR tank. He is part of our current coil group and is with this an even safer member on the boat.
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  3. #33
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    BlueMage's Avatar
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    People act like LB wont fill at all and you wont be able to beat content over this.
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  4. #34
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    NeoAmon's Avatar
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    Sparda Amon
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    People act like LB wont fill at all and you wont be able to beat content over this.
    Nah, this was never the point of this thread. Every single content including Twintania can be done without LB, it is for sure an inconvenience but it was never a "must".

    The change is fine, 100% fine with it. However, it should not start punishing as soon as there is 2 Character playing the same job, it should be aimed at multiple stacks instead of just 1 stack containing only 2 players.
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  5. #35
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    Mila Allegretto
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    The real question is does it effect monk+pugilist or glad + paladin combos? Cause those are essentially the same yet different they just wont have a few job specific skills granted i dont see that as a problem since most of the time you only need one real main tank. And glad would still have stun lock duty.
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  6. #36
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    CalvatE's Avatar
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    Lil Muffins
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 63
    Rather than slowing it I'd have preferred they increased the speed of not having the same classes, that way you only have something to gain not lose.
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  7. #37
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    kukurumei's Avatar
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    It matters more for bosses that reset limit break, as oppose to bosses that don't reset limit break. aka a trial vs a dungeon.

    Technically speaking you want most/all of the stats filled anyway (such as bring a sch for pie), but lb is really important in some areas. Now more so since whm/brd lb isn't freaking worthless anymore.
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  8. #38
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    UrbanLucrece's Avatar
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    Urban Lucrece
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    It's pretty obvious that it is to encourage diversity. Also it has already been in the game all this time, you gain less bar progress with same jobs in PT been there all the time and stated by Yoshi several times. They just modify it in patch.

    Stop complaining about good things like this, deal with it
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  9. #39
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CalvatE View Post
    Rather than slowing it I'd have preferred they increased the speed of not having the same classes, that way you only have something to gain not lose.
    Its ultimately the same thing and just a matter of perspective. If they said not having any classes stack would increase LB gain speed, people would still be going "So that means my group with multiple <insert job>s will gain LB slower than if I didn't bring the ideal 1-of-each-diff-job class comp!?" If A does better than B, than B does worse than A, regardless of if its due to A being buffed or B being nerfed.

    I wonder though if the LB speed decrease will be binary, or will decrease further and further the less class diversity exists.
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  10. #40
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    Rude Rudy
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    lazy way to skip balancing. Now, certain classes will be invited to be LB fillers, something outside skill or preparation. Lame. Fix skills for synergy please.
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