Let's talk about 2.1 freeze

[Rainsford]

Not sure why you would use Scathe as a filler over B1, especially with Scathe going down to 100 potency... Unless you HAVE to move at that moment.

If we can still get the cast time reduction from UI3 and AF3 for 2 casts if done correctly, then wouldnt the ideal regen rotation be: B3 from AF3 -> Quick B3 having just transitioned to UI3 -> Thunder 2 or 3 -> F3.

You won't have the MP to cast a second B3 at full MP cost right after changing attunements (the cast will cancel as soon as you go into UI3 and the manacost goes to normal).

[Kenji1134]

Well you would need to end your fire cycle with 398 MP to be able to do a B3 for 79 mana, and another one for 319 mana. It is cheaper to cast a 2nd B3 than a T2, and you can just use T2 right after you used your 2nd B3, assuming you get the tick, which you should. Then F3 right after T2.

All we can do is wait an see for now. I am more concerned about me naturally having only 239 PIE, so I dont have enough mana for a "proper" 5 F1 rotation...

[Rainsford]

Well you would need to end your fire cycle with 398 MP to be able to do a B3 for 79 mana, and another one for 319 mana. It is cheaper to cast a 2nd B3 than a T2, and you can just use T2 right after you used your 2nd B3, assuming you get the tick, which you should. Then F3 right after T2.

All we can do is wait an see for now. I am more concerned about me naturally having only 239 PIE, so I dont have enough mana for a "proper" 5 F1 rotation...

Well B3 also runs you 1s over your GCD. Besides, as far as MP goes, Thunder I runs about even with Thunder 2 (thunder 2 is better with more gear, but the difference is .1%, less than a point of Int) and thunder>Scathe is even to or better than thunder2 alone.