FC house prices is a step in the right direction for this game! Less casual friendly.

[Black91CRX]

How?

No, seriously - how?

How will this revive Marketboards when the bulk of the gil is being taken out of the economy? Who the ever-loving hell is going to buy the items on the Marketboards when no one has any gil?! And those that do have gil, that can buy houses, they comprise a tiny percentage of the overall server population. So if 1-5% of the server are the only ones needing furniture, who the hell is going to be buying anything? Those that have the gil already have the trades in-house to make it themselves. I mean, seriously...

It would force them to have to buy things again in order to make more money. Rather than dip into their deep pockets.

[LiadansWhisper]

Rich people control the market. It would force them to have to buy things again in order to make more money. Rather than dip into their deep pockets.

I wonder if you even realize exactly how much you are contradicting yourself. :-\ It's like, English, what does it mean? >.<

Smh, just keep pouting because you're not getting a handout.

No. It's like you don't understand how economics works...at all.

If people are spending all of their money on a plot of land, or hoarding their money trying to reach the amount they need to purchase the plot of land, who exactly is buying anything on the Marketboards?

Seriously, if you spend a moment to think about what you said logically, you'll understand why it doesn't make any sense.

[Yolteotl]

Everyone in opposition of the housing prices, go to: JP Forum and 'Like' the OP.

The more centralized the opposition to the ridiculous pricing scheme, the better chance we will be heard!

[Sunarie]

Smh, just keep pouting because you're not getting a handout.

Strawman argument is bad.

[Kirschey]

Just going to copy what I said in another thread:

The prices for Balmung/Excal/Hyperion/Rag/Sarg are perfectly fine for small and medium, though maybe reduce the large by a little bit.
The prices for the other bundle legacy servers is definitely too high, not sure why it's different.
Prices for non-legacy servers are beyond fine, and easy to get.

These are houses for an FC. An entire guild of people. Working together. Not a personal house.

Just change all legacy to be the same price, and reduce the cost of a Large 5th class to about 150mil, that would make Large 1st class around 225mil. Also taking into consideration the price drop every 6 hours.

Way too many people complaining these prices are too high (even the 8mil tag on the 5th plot on non-legacy servers...tell me again how you haven't been able to save up only 8 mil with a 30man FC in the past few months? ) The problem isn't with SE or the prices, it's between the chair and the keyboard. People ignore the posts that are logical so that they may continue their "NO U" arguments.

[TawdryClay]

No, I've been saving since launch, and I know others have, too. ^^; This is probably the reason that there is so much gil "in circulation" in the first place!

This.

I do think that prices are okay, at least on my server where a large is only 100mil. Still a huge amount for my tiny FC, something for us all to work towards.

[LiadansWhisper]

Way too many people complaining these prices are too high (even the 8mil tag on the 5th plot on non-legacy servers...tell me again how you haven't been able to save up only 8 mil with a 30man FC in the past few months? ) The problem isn't with SE or the prices, it's between the chair and the keyboard. People ignore the posts that are logical so that they may continue their "NO U" arguments.

No, they simply disagree with you. Everything you've posted is pure opinion, and nothing more. Just like everything everyone else is posting. No one is required to agree with you, and just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them wrong. But your opinion would seem to be a minority on these forums, which suggest that what is "just fine" for you isn't "just fine" for everyone else. Not everyone is in your shoes. Not everyone has had your experiences. Different people have different opinions, and they are entitled to post them here, and to express dismay and even outrage if SE does something they feel is detrimental to their gameplay experience. They're not "ignoring logical posts," but what exactly are they supposed to say in response to you, hm? "No, you're wrong" or "No, I disagree"? Exactly where does that get them?

I'm glad you're happy with the prices. I really wish, though, that you had even a small bit of empathy for people who are not.

[Naunet]

I do think that prices are okay, at least on my server where a large is only 100mil. Still a huge amount for my tiny FC, something for us all to work towards.

100 million, or even 50 million is too much, for any size. The journey with the content should not happen before you even begin to experience the content. Squeenix has gotten this backwards. Obtaining a plot and house - FC or otherwise - should be just a minor bump in a long road that stretches out well into the future after you get your house. The bulk of the journey and collective effort should come from gathering, crafting, and otherwise obtaining items to create a masterpiece of a house. Of course, Squeenix's editing system for the houses is pretty darn minimal, so maybe they figured they'd hide their lack of a fully-fledged housing system (seriously - take a look at Rift for THE best) by locking it behind an absurd paywall to make people think they're actually doing something.

[Kirschey]

-snip due to character limit-.

I'm not asking for people to agree with me. However I'd like to get more opinions than just the same "it's too high [insert expectations of a 4man guild being able to afford largest house here] or something about the small houses not being good enough"
And on the flip side, people saying "thx for making this not for the casuals!" is also silly, since, housing isn't really a main piece of content.
Silly me for expecting actual discussion from the forums.

Edit: I also gave examples of reducing the cost of the Largest house to something possibly more reasonable, and I disagree with the cost for that one group of legacy servers.

Of course, Squeenix's editing system for the houses is pretty darn minimal, so maybe they figured they'd hide their lack of a fully-fledged housing system

Hopefully they'll improve it before personal housing comes out...

[Roris]

A logical decision that many logical people have already pointed out multiple times is that the actual furnishing and expansion of the house should be the main gil and time sinks and like them I agree, I wouldn't mind that at all because that's what the majority of logical people were expecting in the first place. The exorbitant prices are only for the land itself and they don't include the house, I repeat, they don't include the house. Yes, you also have to pay for the house and yes, they've said it will be considerably cheaper, but it's still an extra expense on top of the high admittance price.

So why put such a high paywall behind such highly advertised content? Like many have also mentioned, many other MMOs offer the land and even the basic house for free, two big examples are FFXI and Rift. Are they afraid their servers can't handle the additional load? Because they mentioned expanding instance servers, that's pretty much what the bulk of tomorrow's maintenance will be, and I can't imagine there are that many FCs on a single server either or people staying in their house 24/7.

It's a bad decision any way you want to see it and I'm really sorry, but the moment you start blaming the players for being understandably upset about it it's the moment you've lost the argument.