WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[Naunet]

Never mind the fact that, if people could just buy a house instantly, content the developers have spent a staggering amount of time on (go check how many fences, walls, windows, roofs, furniture, etc. there are) would be blown through in a couple of weeks.

If you really think the housing system is so fragile, perhaps SE should have spent a bit more attention on developing it properly. Getting the house should not be the journey - customizing it and creating your own (or your FC's) space should be. Rift got that right. The time and gold sink is in creating, obtaining, and putting together hundreds or thousands of materials to build a masterpiece together. That makes the long term goal actually interesting, as it's something that requires you do much more than just "farm gil". That housing is little more than "farm gil, buy house, decorate with a few items", with the vast majority of the effort going to the first step (which doesn't even involve participating in the housing content), is not a good thing.

[Stormfeather]

Exactly... if the goal is to spin out the enjoyment of housing, getting the plot/house in the first place should be one of the LEAST expensive steps. Because that way, we can get the lot, then get the house, THEN take our time gradually filling it out with Cool Stuff as we get the money/materials for it. (And that would be a much better gil sink, for that matter.)

Instead, there's not going to be any enjoyment *to* spin out. It's going to be a matter of:

a) FCs just go without, and have envy for any FCs who actually *can* afford this key content for the patch,

b) FCs do grind up the gil to eventually get one, but it leaves a bad taste in their mouth for having to go through such obnoxious grinding and tedium,

c) FCs somehow do have the gil to shell out for it, but with that much free gil floating around in their accounts, the piddling amount on top of it for furniture doesn't mean a thing, and it's still gone through in a heartbeat.

[Mizuharu]

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[Starlord]

Well there is a bit of good news for the majority!

Q34: Please tell us how much land and housing will be.

A34: First I would like to apologize in regards to the prices for land. Until now I’ve been saying that we wanted to make the prices the same for all Worlds; however, looking at the gil in circulation for each World, we’ve reached a conclusion that we are unable to make the prices the same across all Worlds.

Based on the economic conditions of all Worlds, we’ve separated Worlds into five groups, and depending on the group the price will be different. The legacy Worlds will be slightly more expensive, but as the players on these worlds have more money, we hope for your understanding.

We plan on making adjustments after looking at how land is sold. By the way, a rank 5 piece of small size land on the cheapest World group will start at 4,000,000 gil and the price will be reduced every six hours.

After this stream has concluded we will be releasing the patch notes, and we’ll be including how much the prices are for each World, so please be sure to check them out afterwards.

In regards to the actual buildings, they are the same price across all Worlds. At the higher range it will run several hundred thousand gill, so it’s relatively cheaper.

Another words after 2 weeks-1month goes by, if nobody buys a house it will drop a lot.

[Rowan_Moonkeeper]

First of all, I am quite surprised at the prices across all worlds.

This cost isn't even the housing itself, merely the lot which to build upon.

We pay a monthly sub for never-ending, monitored & expanding game play & content. We are presented with hype from SE for a place our guilds can call home, gather together & reminisce.

The goal, or adventure, shouldn't be obtaining the lot, but rather the refinement, special touches & uniqueness of the house itself! Afterall, SE laboriously added so many design variations, floor, wall, fencing etc etc that their time invested would not be in vain, because our focus & efforts would be on making our house a home.

Yet what if their time was in vain? Wouldn't be SE's first failure.

I think placing primary focus on making FC's slave away to purchase a lot is absurd & completely misses the mark. Many are going to be so burnt out trying to accrue the funds, that building the house will lose its joy.

TLDR: We pay a monthly fee for hyped, newly created content, that many FC's won't even be able to partake in til prices drop... if then. How fun is that?

[Alkimi]

The legacy Worlds will be slightly more expensive

*Insert "that word" meme here*

[Jinrya-Geki]

Could you give a source for this bullshit, good sir? 'cause it seems to me that you just made up a bunch of numbers straight from your anal cavity.

I can't breathe.

[Kinseykinz]

You're looking at a mid-sized plot for a small FC....

I'm getting a little tired of this attitude.

IF, IF that was SE's real intent, then the plots should come with a min/max occupancy but guess what, they don't. A large FC is has as much right to a small plot as a Small FC does, and vice versa. Furthermore, STOP saying people are just being impatient, and 'you shouldn't be able to get the big trophy in one day'.

First, there are Legacy FC's that have literally been saving for YEARS, yes YEARS for a FC Guildhouse. So even if your logic is 'correct' that 40 Members=Midsized house based on gil naturally generated leveling 1-50 via quests and storylines FINE. But what if those same 40 people work together for 2 years to save money for a big house and STILL can't afford it...What then? Is that fair or logical...this isn't real life, it's a game.

Second, there are 5 different price points for each sized house...so why can't the 'level 5' versions of each house be 'within reason' but maybe the most far away in the zone/silly layout of land etc.

Third, but in some regards the most important. THIS.IS.JUST.THE.COST.OF.THE.LAND. Not the house,not the building of the house, not the furniture, nor addons etc. SE designed FC housing to be a gil sink...we ALL KNEW THAT. But the real gil sink should be in the decorating and building of it. SE shouldn't be bankrupting us on the plot of land alone...then how is the building/furniture production ever going to help the economy.

Forth, most legacy players were not rich...furthermore, not everyone on a legacy server is a 1.0 vet. The prices being different depending on the World you decided to be on (or in the case of Legacy folk were FORCED to be on) is unfair and will play out poorly later.This just gives yet another reason for people to not wish to start fresh on a 'Legacy Server'...because a FC full of new players will have to work 3-6 times as hard (yes really that much harder) to get the exact same thing they could have on a 'Newer' server. This will also cause some thrifty FC's to decide to pack up and move to 'cheaper' locations so their gil has more buying power/value.

Fifth. The is the ONLY thing in game atm a FC can actually work on as an entire group. Everything in game can be done in a 4 or 8 man static...everything. Housing, If even remotely affordable, it would have brought people together. Pride in ownership, FC and working together. Whether in a Small or Large home, the group would have a place to hang out, decorate, and call their own. A place to mark FC achievements and growth. Most FC's on most servers can't even afford the smallest grade 5 plot...

Sixth. They have been very unclear on what happens if you decide to buy small now, but move to a big house later. They have also been unclear as to what features you can include in each size of housing. People would probably calm down if they knew they could have the important features (crafting/aytherite etc) in anysized home.

Seventh: What happens when all the 'small lots' are bought in an instance but no one buys the mid-large lots? Does another instance pop or do we all get locked out until someone buys every lot in that instance? Because if we can't spawn an new instance until every lot is purchased on the existing...there will be issues, especially now when if a FC can afford a house, it would be a small-mid (if they scrimped). But even if instances do open up as the last of one type of house is purchased, instead of a vibrant instance filled with different types of housing, there will be a handful of small-half built FC homes and lots of barren unpurchased land.

Lastly. These are not personal homes...PERSONAL homes, could be downright pricey and people would probably complain less...but instead FC Housing are PUBLIC housing. So unless you are a FC leader, you most likely will have little influence on the location,size, decorations or features of the house. So why should you be obligated to shell out 300K-6Mil for a home as a FC member? As I said, there isn't even reason in game in the moment to be in a FC. (This is SE's stupidity)

[Risae]

I'm getting a little tired of this attitude.

Please look forward to it.

[Vipurr]

They showed videos of the housing and all the crafting items for this, but then make it so no one can get one. Don't waste our time advertising something with less then 1% can purchase.

Merry Christmas gil sellers. Looks like they are setting up bait for those who buy gil to get the housing. Crooked way to betray paying clients.