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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    I think the smaller housing is overpriced. It would be nice if there were a lot of entry level plots for people so most FCs, casual or otherwise would have access to it without too much grinding.

    However, I think the high end plots are spot on. They are massive investments that exist for prestige and prestige alone. They're meant to be ridiculous goals to work towards for the 1% of the 1% that have to have the best and biggest houses.
    That pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the subject. While I'm looking forward to single player housing a lot more, I have sympathy for the many smaller FCs that this will have an impact on in varying degrees. The frustration is understandable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    I think the smaller housing is overpriced. It would be nice if there were a lot of entry level plots for people so most FCs, casual or otherwise would have access to it without too much grinding.

    However, I think the high end plots are spot on. They are massive investments that exist for prestige and prestige alone. They're meant to be ridiculous goals to work towards for the 1% of the 1% that have to have the best and biggest houses.
    Only the 1% have basement to build airship and other special benefits.Who wanna join fc with small or medium housing. Not forgetting you can't upgrade directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordSideKicks View Post
    Only the 1% have basement to build airship and other special benefits.Who wanna join fc with small or medium housing. Not forgetting you can't upgrade directly.
    Right because you *need* your own FC airship in this game. It's already ridiculously cheap and easy to get anywhere in this game at near a moment's notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Right because you *need* your own FC airship in this game. It's already ridiculously cheap and easy to get anywhere in this game at near a moment's notice.
    It's content im paying them to make. You bet your ass I better get access to it.

    You wanna loot lock coil/crystal tower to one piece every 4 months? Whatever, i still get to see the content you were paid to develop.
    You wanna make chocobo leveling retardly grindy? Whatever, i still get to at least get a chocobo to play with.
    You wanna make housing out of reach of most of your players? Fuck that. Can't see content i'm paying you to make. THIS IS THE ISSUE.
    You wanna do it right? Everyone gets to get a little house cheap, upgrading to massive mansions involves grinding company points/items/some gil for upgrades. Everyone sees the content, elitist grinders get to be elitest.

    This is what i expect when i pay a sub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taaz View Post
    It's content im paying them to make. You bet your ass I better get access to it.

    You wanna loot lock coil/crystal tower to one piece every 4 months? Whatever, i still get to see the content you were paid to develop.
    You wanna make chocobo leveling retardly grindy? Whatever, i still get to at least get a chocobo to play with.
    You wanna make housing out of reach of most of your players? Fuck that. Can't see content i'm paying you to make. THIS IS THE ISSUE.
    You wanna do it right? Everyone gets to get a little house cheap, upgrading to massive mansions involves grinding company points/items/some gil for upgrades. Everyone sees the content, elitist grinders get to be elitest.

    This is what i expect when i pay a sub.
    THIS ^ EXACTLY!
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    "SE set the bar with FF11, like it or not. They could do it again if they would use the common sense God gave them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Right because you *need* your own FC airship in this game. It's already ridiculously cheap and easy to get anywhere in this game at near a moment's notice.
    Did you read the live letters on FC housing where Yoshida said FC airship will have more feature then juz smuggling lalafel organs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taaz View Post
    It's content im paying them to make. You bet your ass I better get access to it.

    You wanna loot lock coil/crystal tower to one piece every 4 months? Whatever, i still get to see the content you were paid to develop.
    You wanna make chocobo leveling retardly grindy? Whatever, i still get to at least get a chocobo to play with.
    You wanna make housing out of reach of most of your players? Fuck that. Can't see content i'm paying you to make. THIS IS THE ISSUE.
    You wanna do it right? Everyone gets to get a little house cheap, upgrading to massive mansions involves grinding company points/items/some gil for upgrades. Everyone sees the content, elitist grinders get to be elitest.

    This is what i expect when i pay a sub.
    Your subscription fee pays for about 1 tester working 1 hour to test the content that gets made. As such, not every piece of content and every line of code is going to be explicitly for your benefit.

    Some things you need to compete with others to get them. You can't just grind it out. You want to buy a big mansion? You pony up the cash before all the plots are taken. You wait until the prices come down or SE "sees the light" and slashes housing prices, then those plots might be gone and you can't have them. It's what makes those items special, desirable and exclusive. If anybody can get them then it removes the urgency to claim it and the prestige of having it. Which is sort of the point of the massive "HEY LOOK AT ME" housing plots. If you want that, go get it. If you don't want all the hassle that goes with it, then don't and get something smaller.

    As long as it doesn't grant any real benefit to PvE, PvP or crafting why exactly do you care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post

    As long as it doesn't grant any real benefit to PvE, PvP or crafting why exactly do you care?
    It's a feature my sub money is helping to put in game. That's why we care. A rather LARGE feature at that, that has been previewed, pre-previewed, and hyped up for months on end. I want the content i'm helping to make.

    I like how you say you don't need to grind it out, when the only way to purchase these houses is to do just that. "Oh , sell stuff on the market" Is always your ignorant answers on these forums, when the majority of you don't get that doing that is not 'grinding out money' it's taking someone elses money. You can be sure the market economies are going to plummet with these prices. So you are left to grind out dungeons for 3k a run, until, at the very least, you get 8 million gil to put down on a house thats no bigger than your FREE inn room. No. There's just all sorts of wrong here.

    Be content with it all you want, we're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taaz View Post
    It's a feature my sub money is helping to put in game. That's why we care. A rather LARGE feature at that, that has been previewed, pre-previewed, and hyped up for months on end. I want the content i'm helping to make.

    I like how you say you don't need to grind it out, when the only way to purchase these houses is to do just that. "Oh , sell stuff on the market" Is always your ignorant answers on these forums, when the majority of you don't get that doing that is not 'grinding out money' it's taking someone elses money. You can be sure the market economies are going to plummet with these prices. So you are left to grind out dungeons for 3k a run, until, at the very least, you get 8 million gil to put down on a house thats no bigger than your FREE inn room. No. There's just all sorts of wrong here.

    Be content with it all you want, we're not.
    Hey Spaz, how about you look up like 7 posts?

    I said the 8 mil for the lower end stuff is too much and should be reduced because it's much too high for your average casual FC (lowest starting price on Ultros). Applies to all the low-mid tier housing.

    625 mil for the biggest plot on the most prime real estate on the legacy servers with the most outstanding gil floating around is legit because the price for that kind of thing is supposed to be absurd.
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 12-16-2013 at 12:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Your subscription fee pays for about 1 tester working 1 hour to test the content that gets made. As such, not every piece of content and every line of code is going to be . *snip*

    As long as it doesn't grant any real benefit to PvE, PvP or crafting why exactly do you care?
    First subs cover much more than that dearie.

    Second It is understandable it's not "explicitly for your benefit" BUT should be reasonable & attainable to all, which it's not, at this point. THIS IS ONLY A LOT! Get it? Be different IF house, or an expandable shack. lol

    Thirdly Guild housing most definitely adds benefits. Perks to crafting & harvesting etc.

    House itself, yes bust your behind for, utilize those hrs the devs poured into fencing, walls & other aesthetics, but not on a silly lot.
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    "Aliens will never attack Earth. There isn't enough brain activity."

    "SE set the bar with FF11, like it or not. They could do it again if they would use the common sense God gave them."

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