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  1. #21
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    Ladon's Avatar
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    Resa Nome
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonyB View Post
    Lol yeah I believe that, unless you transferred from 1.0 with most of it.
    Of course you don't. You have no way to know how much gil I have or another 3000 people on a server. The developers however do know exactly how much gil each FC has access to on each server and they know exactly how many plots the expect to sell at the set prices on each server.
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  2. #22
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    Miss Wildfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
    Of course you don't. You have no way to know how much gil I have or another 3000 people on a server. The developers however do know exactly how much gil each FC has access to on each server and they know exactly how many plots the expect to sell at the set prices on each server.
    Yeah you can tell who are mainly the people with lots of gil on the server due to what gets crafted and sold since that is the only main income of gil. Unless you gather pretty much all day every day and somehow happen to sell all that stuff before the RMT bots do then yeah. Yes they know how much gil is on the server, but do they know how much of it is from legit players and how much of it is sat on RMT bank characters? If so then why is there still RMT all over the place selling gil instead of having their banks banned?

    Knowing how much is on the server total means nothing when millions of it is sat on RMT banks.

    Edit: Also LOL, I bet you have less than afew mil with only miner leveled. Bye bye.
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    Last edited by AntonyB; 12-15-2013 at 06:51 PM.

  3. #23
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    It's only some legacy servers that cost that much, and it's FC HOUSING, so obviously it's not something that 1 person should pay...
    Legacy ppl may already have had a lot of gil, since it was much more easily obtainable in early 1.0 (i heard someone say he had 900mil+ saved). So for a small house you'd just need 10ppl, to pay 4mil...which isn't terrible; and many FC have much more than 10 members, and ppl selling titan wins, have more than 4mil gil.
    And if you have less than 10 members...why would you need a huge mansion for 600mil anyways?
    And also it was stated, that prices will halve over time, if no one buys a plot.
    You can't has this house, deal with it.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonyB View Post
    Yeah you can tell who are mainly the people with lots of gil on the server due to what gets crafted and sold since that is the only main income of gil. Unless you gather pretty much all day every day and somehow happen to sell all that stuff before the RMT bots do then yeah. Yes they know how much gil is on the server, but do they know how much of it is from legit players and how much of it is sat on RMT bank characters? If so then why is there still RMT all over the place selling gil instead of having their banks banned?

    Knowing how much is on the server total means nothing when millions of it is sat on RMT banks.

    Edit: Also LOL, I bet you have less than afew mil with only miner leveled. Bye bye.
    Sorry, you are completely clueless to how databases work.

    See you can query various criteria and even group results. It's trivial to determine how much money is in a FC by grouping on members with FC tags. Heck you can go a step further and only include players that have logged in the last 15 days or so or have an active subscription. If you think they only have data on the total amount of gil on the server you really, really have no idea.

    Oh and, it's also hilarious that you think my gil amount can be determined by leveled crafting/gathering classes when gil was trivial to gain in 1.0 from certain events and the stupid amount of gil that was made in the early days of 2.0 by transferring to 2.0 with fully geared level 50s.
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  5. #25
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    Fatestorm's Avatar
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    Ghalleon Helseth
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I completely agree with you, OP. I was saying the same thing to my entire free company earlier. The biggest message we can send to SE is that their new content drops and *nobody* bites. We just let it sit there until you make this content fairly priced.
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    --Ghalleon Helseth of Arrzaneth
    Eius in obitu nostro praesentia muniamur.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
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    They already said they was monitoring the current gil economy. That would include all gil circulating, not just based on group searches. The only people I'd expect to have a ton of gil is Titan sellers to be honest. Like I said, they can't tell what is real gil and what is RMT gil, if they could people would be getting banned more, RMT would be getting banned more and prices wouldn't be crashing like they are right now. Crafts and gatherer classes tell exactly how good of a gil income people have, prove me wrong and post an SS of your gil, because I'm guessing you have very few mil at that.

    The prices are clearly based on RMT gil circulating, that's all. I know very very very few people that have millions of gil on my server. Most the people I know have only sub 1mil and that includes legacy people.

    FYI I transferred to 2.0 with every class 50 bar ACN, I know how much gil there was.

    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    Can we get a Screenshot of that money. Cause as far as i remember SE banned ppl who had over 8 mil like a month ago so unless you made 210 million in 1 month......
    Just another troll, he has nothing barely.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
    218 million. What does this tell you? This should be good.
    Can we get a Screenshot of that money. Cause as far as i remember SE banned ppl who had over 8 mil like a month ago so unless you made 210 million in 1 month......


    Or maybe youre one of those Titan win sellers, thats also a way to make money
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    Last edited by KoujiGeki; 12-15-2013 at 07:23 PM.

  8. #28
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    Rynault Beinon
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    The most you could transfer over with from 1.0 would be 99,999,999 gil which is 1/10th of the gil cap plus some items you had on you or your retainers were converted into gil as they removed some stuff from the game. My legacy transferred over with slightly over a mil in gil.

    So if you have over 218 mil in gil then your either lying, have bought gil or still lying. I'd of believed you if you said something like 130-150 mil being on a legacy.

    I started over on a non-legacy with some friends. I've been trying to make gil and haven't finished the MSQ with my new character yet and I've only made 400k gil selling HQs on my server and so far my crafts are 35+. I have yet to sell my allagan pieces either but that will probably net me 200k when I finish the MSQ.
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  9. #29
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    dont know how people are supporting something like this. talk about a lockout 90 days for the house to go down in value 50% and cost more gil then probably on a server. on my server a stack of ore best days are 5k-6k a stack takes about hour thirty mins to get 10 stacks they sell fast to so do the math. a game with useless crafting you cant make money off it no one buys anything.

    and people say dont do like FFXI!! hell FFXI had way better design on locking you out didnt take half a billion gil or 90 days, all things took was effort. FFXIV housing is a major time sink and time sinks dont mean you get more out of it you get that much less.
    you honor a broken system you get that with everything else in the future.
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    Last edited by indira; 12-15-2013 at 08:04 PM.

  10. #30
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    Looks to me with these prices the whole housing project was a waste of time and resources which they could have spent on content.
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