I think they nerfed SMNS

[faris]

I hope they obey/steady change is just something lost in translation or something along those lines. I would like to think that the developers are smarter thent hat

I'd agree, but giving us blizzard II, an AOE that focuses around you, when we're supposed to keep away is a really dumb move. Also without umbral ice. dat MP cost+having to ruinspam anyway? Jesus.

[xardus]

I'd agree, but giving us blizzard II, an AOE that focuses around you, when we're supposed to keep away is a really dumb move. Also without umbral ice. dat MP cost+having to ruinspam anyway? Jesus.

well can be a new combo with miasma2...if they just boost it ^^ but now umbrella ice has 50 potency instead of 100 so...bleah WTF

[faris]

well can be a new combo with miasma2...if they just boost it ^^ but now umbrella ice has 50 potency instead of 100 so...bleah WTF

I can't get on blm now to check, but the MP cost of blizzard II at 50 without umbral ice is pretty hefty. Combined with the fact we will have to ruinspam now, it's really not looking good for our longterm MP stock, aetherflow or not. Personally, as well, I'd be wary about doing something like that around stuff when most things in this game spam their own aoes like noones business.

[xardus]

I can't get on blm now to check, but the MP cost of blizzard II at 50 without umbral ice is pretty hefty. Combined with the fact we will have to ruinspam now, it's really not looking good for our longterm MP stock, aetherflow or not. Personally, as well, I'd be wary about doing something like that around stuff when most things in this game spam their own aoes like noones business.

well without thunder we gain 212 mp at every dot refresh...not a big advantage but better than nothing,allow to cast 2x ruin2 but still dsnt worth the lost
mana can be a problem,but on most boss u cant go under him to cast miasma2or blizzard2 so its pretty unusefull,its good only in t4 for just 1 wave...bah i dont understand whats the point in this changes,maybe they just didnt think that smn is nerfed with this changes,noone of theme is plaing it

[Hiroradius]

well without thunder we gain 212 mp at every dot refresh...not a big advantage but better than nothing,allow to cast 2x ruin2 but still dsnt worth the lost
mana can be a problem,but on most boss u cant go under him to cast miasma2or blizzard2 so its pretty unusefull,its good only in t4 for just 1 wave...bah i dont understand whats the point in this changes,maybe they just didnt think that smn is nerfed with this changes,noone of theme is plaing it

Honestly, I feel this change is more pvp designed then pve.