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    Majidah's Avatar
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50

    I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

    Bard nerf:

    - Rain of Death now gives -10% enemy eva instead of -10% enemy attack (with 100% acc isn't that useless?).
    - Shadowbind recast increased from 12 to 40 (was this even necessary considering the built resistance?)
    - Hawk's Eye now has 100% acc (this is technically a buff, I guess? with 100% acc through equipment this makes no sense)
    - Blood for blood reduced to 10% in cross-job.
    - Internal release reduced from 20% to 10% in cross job.

    I can take our DPS getting nerfed...
    I don't care either way about Shadowbind (which makes the nerf uncalled for tbh)...
    but RAIN OF DEATH??!!

    There was no need to mess up Rain of Death. It's literally useless now. One of the MOST useful utility skills we had!

    Uses for Rod before nerf:
    Before Titan's stomps.
    If Cadeceus's get more than 2 stacks or enraged.
    ADS it's good to keep it up 24/7 to it eats slower through stoneskin/adloquium and doesn't put stacks on your tanks.
    Each twintania fireball, before any twintania death sentence, before twintania's 2hr skill.

    Uses for RoD after nerf:
    If someone is undergeared or if you want to gear yourself under the acc cap to make up for the dps nerf.

    Overall RoD made it easier on your healers, saved MP in healing, helped the tanks aswell.
    The only sense I can make of these changes is SE wants us to steer away from acc equipment, put it all into det and crit, and keep rain of death up 24/7. Which would basically destroy our TP. Unless they were to make RoD last over a minute or make it cost like no tp or make Paeon affect also the caster and have a lower MP cost and removed the -20% attack.

    But all and all these nerfs feel half assed. It feels like they were done by someone who doesn't play the game.

    Now bard isn't really support, it isn't really a DD, and it isn't really a debuffer.



    Mage's ballad, silence and foe requiem. That's it. That's what we boil down into now.
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    Last edited by Majidah; 12-15-2013 at 06:39 AM.

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    Anthrax Lam
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    Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthraxLam View Post
    Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.
    We aren't really support though. We can't heal anyone (outside our LB), we can't raise in battle, we can't make others stronger (other than offensive casters).
    No one runs out of TP to make Paeon useful at all. The really need to fix that song, not nerf RoD.
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    Rain of death wasn't really a nerf. The evasion down is needed for multiple classes.
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    Nos Chiru
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    i was supporting for bard nerf but this is so damn ridiculous and too far
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    Edwin Li
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    Well there is always Musketeer class and Archers 2nd Job arriving in the future.
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    Rain of death wasn't really a nerf. The evasion down is needed for multiple classes.
    I disagree. The first thing you should aim for is capping your acc which will put you in 100%... making lowered enemy evasion unnecessary. The only reason I can see for evasion down to be useful is making it less of a requirement for bard so they grab more crit equip instead of acc equip to make up for the B4B/IR nerf, but this takes a very heavy toll on your TP.
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    Rusalka Camenae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    Rain of death wasn't really a nerf. The evasion down is needed for multiple classes.
    Maybe if the people playing those classes are terribly geared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    I disagree. The first thing you should aim for is capping your acc which will put you in 100%... making lowered enemy evasion unnecessary. The only reason I can see for evasion down to be useful is making it less of a requirement for bard so they grab more crit equip instead of acc equip to make up for the B4B/IR nerf.
    Try capping accuracy with current i90 pieces.
    Damage reduction was awesome, but evasion down is also very useful.
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    Last edited by Luso; 12-15-2013 at 04:20 AM.
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    Tatsuya Nekomiya
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    Moogle
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    i hoped that they ll nerf their dps, but also , put to them more team buffs .
    now we don't even know about their duty in a group ....
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