I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

[Majidah]

I can't believe the amount of under-performing bards who are claiming in this thread RoD was only useful against Twintania's 2hr.

Using RoD saves MP, helps mitigation last longer, lowers the amount of healing and thus hate on healers, makes speed runs easier ... Damage reduction has a higher impact in the battle than just surviving Twintania's AOE.

You can also easily keep RoD by yourself before each fireball.
And before (or after, if you aren't keeping count of plummet) each death sentence. You can also make a RoD rotation with your fellow bard and keep it up 24/7 without it affecting your TP.

Saying -10% damage reduction isn't incredibly useful is silly. And if you aren't using it you aren't performing at your best.



Bard is (well, WAS) a job heavily based on utility skills. Now it strikes me just as a half assed hybrid. Oh and for those bards who didn't use RoD, just a heads up: Foe requiem is incredibly good. Keep it up when you aren't saving your MP for ballad. It wouldn't surprise me if you weren't.

[Rose_Vilehart]

OMG XD you are actually complaining about this? i see some of this as a buff not a nerf and who really uses shadowbind that much?
oh you are complaining about RoD? still don't care it costs 200 tp so i barely use it

[Xellos2099]

OMG XD you are actually complaining about this? i see some of this as a buff not a nerf and who really uses shadowbind that much?
oh you are complaining about RoD? still don't care it costs 200 tp so i barely use it

Mind saying what PART of the patch for bard is a buff?

[Rose_Vilehart]

Mind saying what PART of the patch for bard is a buff?

hawks eye, what else?
plus if you are gonna complain about a nerf why don't we complain about the CNJ nerf, i still don't care much cause i dont play a CNJ but some people in my FC feel screwed over.

[Xellos2099]

hawks eye, what else?
plus if you are gonna complain about a nerf why don't we complain about the CNJ nerf, i still don't care much cause i dont play a CNJ but some people in my FC feel screwed over.

Er who give a $@% to hawkeye when a properly geared bard is nearly 100% acc in coil in the first place.... only under geared bard have issue with accuracy. I DO find holy nerf a bit troublesome but cnj nerf is NOT where near bard when they completely changed a skill utility.

[Xellos2099]

The only real place where bard was op was in Titan run... and blame SE for that; for mading it melee unfriendly. I heard medica change too, it cab get bad in wp sr or titan stomp.

[Zumi]

It seems they really want you to take a war. Since they moved the -10% damage debuff to war.

[Xellos2099]

Agree, tank die and you are drown dirt

[caspergrey]

Mage's ballad, silence and foe requiem. That's it. That's what we boil down into now.

Before we discuss the nerf, lets look at the problem. Prior to 2.1 melee DPS were having harder times finding BC groups. Groups wanted to take in 2 bards = less spots for other dps.

The solution should then be, make it desirable to have a brd, but less optimal to stack 2. Partly addressed with buffing melee dps. They also moved the dmg debuff from bard to war, cause we know no one wanted to take a war into endgame. This now makes pld/war desirable as a 2 tank setup.

So the question is, do these changes to bard make bard undesirable for endgame? Cause at the end of the day, that's what matters.

I would argue that Mage's ballad, silence and foe requiem, were really the main reasons people were taking bard into BC in the first place. When you say, that's all a bard has, I would argue that that's still pretty awesome, and will continue to be sought after.

[Yoruichi4478]

Before we discuss the nerf, lets look at the problem. Prior to 2.1 melee DPS were having harder times finding BC groups. Groups wanted to take in 2 bards = less spots for other dps.

The solution should then be, make it desirable to have a brd, but less optimal to stack 2. Partly addressed with buffing melee dps. They also moved the dmg debuff from bard to war, cause we know no one wanted to take a war into endgame. This now makes pld/war desirable as a 2 tank setup.

So the question is, do these changes to bard make bard undesirable for endgame? Cause at the end of the day, that's what matters.

I would argue that Mage's ballad, silence and foe requiem, were really the main reasons people were taking bard into BC in the first place. When you say, that's all a bard has, I would argue that that's still pretty awesome, and will continue to be sought after.

We were already taking a pld and a war w/o them screwing classes over.