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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    The 7 people you play with probably have COIL on farm. Why don't you help other members by splitting that group and taking in more members and create more groups.
    Its the System which force you to do that. Ill ask you a Question now.

    .) When you are in a static which has coil on farm and you want to gear also your alts, why you should waste alot more time by teaching other People in it?

    .) Why just doesnt create Content like WoW has it (they copy-cat hardly everything from WoW)? Coil for 8 Members and 24 Members, same rewards (Ilevel) but more chests for a 24 Members Raid?

    People will Keep complaining but before SE will Change this it will be too late because the dev seems has nothing better to do then deleting threads on the Forum with great ideas and just dont give a .... about our Ideas and suggestions, but when someone asks for a higher Penalty for leaving a DF Group they will say: YES WE NEED THIS!!!! ORZ
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  2. #142
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    As much as I'm tired of lockouts and am starting to agree with the OP...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    .) When you are in a static which has coil on farm and you want to gear also your alts, why you should waste alot more time by teaching other People in it?
    Can someone explain explain me this mentality? I mean, what's the point of even playing?
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  3. #143
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    Djeserit's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    .) When you are in a static which has coil on farm and you want to gear also your alts, why you should waste alot more time by teaching other People in it?
    So, because you choose not to split/vary your raiding group, you complain that you can't split/vary your raiding group? WRONG. You can, you just don't want to because you think you need to gear an alt for.... content that doesn't exist yet.

    Also, this is a video game, which you play for entertainment. That's pretty much the definition of wasted time. Why would you waste time doing something that takes longer? Because maybe then it wouldn't be a Monday only game for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    .) Why just doesnt create Content like WoW has it (they copy-cat hardly everything from WoW)? Coil for 8 Members and 24 Members, same rewards (Ilevel) but more chests for a 24 Members Raid?
    Because the Alliance frames weren't ready at launch, and even with 2.1 you can't make your own prebuilt alliance. Once we have these functions we may see varying sized raids with equal drops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    People will Keep complaining but before SE will Change this it will be too late because the dev seems has nothing better to do then deleting threads on the Forum with great ideas and just dont give a .... about our Ideas and suggestions, but when someone asks for a higher Penalty for leaving a DF Group they will say: YES WE NEED THIS!!!! ORZ
    You are adorable, thinking the people that actually develop the game are the same people that post on the forums. Can pretty much guarantee that the people posting on forums just pop their head into the other guys office and say "Hey, people want to know about this, what do you think?" Then go write a wordy response that's better than the "Working on it/We'll think about it/It's planned, no date yet" that they get from the actual developers.
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    Last edited by Djeserit; 12-14-2013 at 09:25 AM.

  4. #144
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    So I believe they're going to give every major patch a new title. Here are some suggestions:

    Final Fantasy: A Realm of Casuals

    Final Fantasy: A Realm Available on Monday

    Final Fantasy: A Realm Locked

    Final Fantasy: Realm of Warcraft

    Final Fantasy: A Realm of Wine Carrying Heroes
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  5. #145
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    Final Fantasy: A Realm of Wine Carrying Heroes
    You mean Whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    I totally agree with you and I hope they make some kind of change but why do you have to play with the same 7 people ever week in your FC.
    That's a good question and for me the answer is simple. The group that I typically play with is all able to login/play during the specified time we've chosen and that works great for all of us.

    We do occasionally substitute other people into our regular group but often the friends who substitute in have a different schedule and can't commit to a specified time every week for coil like the rest of us. I would still love to be able to help them, even if it's a matter of helping them form a pug with a couple other FC members. To me it's a lot more entertaining to play with a few friends than play with an entire random group of strangers. It also takes a lot less time to form a pug if you have a couple tanks or healers to start off with.
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
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    1) Well why should you split a working Group for a Group which cant pass, lets say T4 for 4 weeks? is there any reason to do it, if you are a hardcore endgame Player whichs Focus to have BiS for 2-3 Classes? When SE give me the Option to do Coil another 100 times a week, but w/o loot i would help just because i can help.

    2) "once we have this function" what does it mean? in a half Year or Year? instead of focusing on Mid-Level Content he should have focused more on the Endgame Content, he knew that there will alot of legacy Players in this game and he also mentioned that 1-50 should be a turtorial so where is the Content for Endgame Players that hold People for a half year and dont bore them to hell

    3) Well what i was wanting to say is that the good parts of the Ideas never reach the devs or just dont want to listen, while the bad ideas (and sorry the Penalty for leaving a DF Group is one of them) will hit the game with the upcoming patch.
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  8. #148
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    What I never understand is the argument; "But if you could farm coil and get all i90, you'd whine there's nothing to do in the game!" Except the funny thing is, there is nothing to do in the game. You do coil once, cap myth, you're done. What makes it any different if I want to be geared on all jobs? Hell, I'd play the game more if all my jobs were in i90 like I dream. I'd be farming all allagan gear sets and all myth sets for vanity purposes. Do you know how long it took me to 100% darklight every job? Imagine that at 40% the speed! (That's for myth alone!) I'd be farming all the time between patches. It's something to do. Then, when you're super geared, you can help carry noobs in Duty Finder (which is something I already do, the only source of fun for me at the moment is duty findering primals.) "B-but wait till the next patch! There will be more to do!" Yeah, run Crystal Tower till I get my 1-a-week drop, same with the extreme primals. Wow, so now I have 2 things more to do on top of my 2 other things. 4 things to do in 1 week which, after extreme primals are on farm status for me, becomes a 4 hour game compared to a 2 hour one. Yeah, great.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    1) Well why should you split a working Group for a Group which cant pass, lets say T4 for 4 weeks? is there any reason to do it, if you are a hardcore endgame Player whichs Focus to have BiS for 2-3 Classes? When SE give me the Option to do Coil another 100 times a week, but w/o loot i would help just because i can help.
    I already explained this. You say there is nothing to do and that you clear Coil in a few hours each week. Why not make it last longer by taking in people who don't have it on farm? In fact, if you have ll the BiS pieces you need for your main, there is absolutely no reason not to do exactly that on an alt class. Make it harder on yourself and your group mates.

    You cannot have 100% efficiency and a full week worth of content in any game if all you care about is BiS. No development team can keep up with your play style.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    2) "once we have this function" what does it mean? in a half Year or Year? instead of focusing on Mid-Level Content he should have focused more on the Endgame Content, he knew that there will alot of legacy Players in this game and he also mentioned that 1-50 should be a turtorial so where is the Content for Endgame Players that hold People for a half year and dont bore them to hell
    Why focus on endgame when it is impossible to satisfy the most hardcore of endgamers? Again, you refuse to do anything that isnt perfectly efficient, then wonder why there's no more content? Because no dev team on this planet can keep up with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    3) Well what i was wanting to say is that the good parts of the Ideas never reach the devs or just dont want to listen, while the bad ideas (and sorry the Penalty for leaving a DF Group is one of them) will hit the game with the upcoming patch.
    Funny, I guess we aren't getting:

    - Increased Myth cap
    - Immunity while rezzing
    - Warrior buffs
    - Melee buffs
    - More variety in endgame
    - Reduced numbers on ridiculous achievements

    and so on in 2.1. They are all good ideas and they seem to have reached the devs.

    What you really meant to say is "Why don't the things I want get implemented instead of the things everyone else cares about?"
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    With coil lockouts, a single character with multiple jobs is a crutch. Multiple characters (One or two level 50's) is ideal so that you can run it a few times each week. I thought FFXIV was founded on the premise that it's a good thing you can level and play all roles with a single character...
    You expected a developer to carry through changes to one system across their entire game? Are you new to MMOs or just naive?
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