FATE Grinding = Not learning?

[Keneblerz]

You also have to remember alot of melee DD's have positionally effective skills, NONE of which most DDs realize even if theyre doing Qarn or Stone Vigil. I can't count how many DDs and Tanks ive PuG'd that didnt know how overpower/flash or Bootshine/Twins Snakes/Snap Punch or Heavy Thrust worked. I can forgive Brayflox, but not Qarn or Vigil. You can't get past any dungeon lv35+ without knowing your job...

[AvonRekaes]

You also have to remember alot of melee DD's have positionally effective skills, NONE of which most DDs realize even if theyre doing Qarn or Stone Vigil. I can't count how many DDs and Tanks ive PuG'd that didnt know how overpower/flash or Bootshine/Twins Snakes/Snap Punch or Heavy Thrust worked. I can forgive Brayflox, but not Qarn or Vigil. You can't get past any dungeon lv35+ without knowing your job...

It comes down to basic reading of your tooltips for abilities and traits, and simple understanding of how they synergize.

That... okay. Well. I know how to read, so I guess that isn't an issue for me. O_o

[PArcher]

You also have to remember alot of melee DD's have positionally effective skills, NONE of which most DDs realize even if theyre doing Qarn or Stone Vigil. I can't count how many DDs and Tanks ive PuG'd that didnt know how overpower/flash or Bootshine/Twins Snakes/Snap Punch or Heavy Thrust worked. I can forgive Brayflox, but not Qarn or Vigil. You can't get past any dungeon lv35+ without knowing your job...

Ran a friend through AV a few days ago. The DRG and BLM that were DF'ed had never cleared it, and were good people, very willing to learn. (I was WHM, friend was PLD)

But no matter how well it worked (we won with a few wipes, but it was fine, they were so happy to have someone who helped them out), it still was incredibly grating to see a DRG who has no idea what Heavy Thrust does...and just spams Impulse Drive and Disembowel without triggering the combo...helped him get things sorted a bit, but still...it was AV...

Yeah, I don't like Fate grinding and am so glad Dungeon XP is getting buffed. Leveling my WAR, WHM and SCH I made sure to run dungeons to learn my class in between grinding. Sadly, most people don't do that