Can we please get separate stat allocations for SMN/SCH?

[Hvinire]

Hello all,

As Yoshida mentioned in a previous LIVE letter, these two jobs were planned to share stats and there are currently no plans to separate their stat allocations. When leveling each class, we'd like players to carefully consider how you'd like to allocate your earned stats. Of course, there is an item that allows you to reset them should you decide to move in a different direction, but it's something that takes time to acquire.

[Sinth]

Hello all,

As Yoshida mentioned in a previous LIVE letter, these two jobs were planned to share stats and there are currently no plans to separate their stat allocations. When leveling each class, we'd like players to carefully consider how you'd like to allocate your earned stats. Of course, there is an item that allows you to reset them should you decide to move in a different direction, but it's something that takes time to acquire.

BOO THIS MAN! BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! ( I mean Yoshida, not Hvinire )

This kind of stance discourages players from leveling and playing multiple jobs which stem from the same class. I have SCH/SMN at 50 but I only play SCH because I don't want to split half of my bonus stats into a worthless stat, or settle for a secondary stat. Inb4 I'm labeled "hardcore" or "vocal minority", or any other buzzword cop-out for wanting to perform as best as I can when I play a job in FF.

[Delmontyb]

This kind of stance discourages players from leveling and playing multiple jobs which stem from the same class. I have SCH/SMN at 50 but I only play SCH because I don't want to split half of my bonus stats into a worthless stat, or settle for a secondary stat.

We are all entitled to our opinion but I like it the way they have done it. If they allowed us to switch out our stats whenever we want, then what's the point of having the bonus stats in the first place, they should just take that away and add those points to the job itself.

I like having the freedom to choose and set these stats the way I want, and not have to change them every time I change my class, or have them change with the job. But that's my opinion.

Ya, it sucks for min/maxers but I play both SCH/SMN regularly, without issue.

[Sinth]

We are all entitled to our opinion but I like it the way they have done it. If they allowed us to switch out our stats whenever we want, then what's the point of having the bonus stats in the first place, they should just take that away and add those points to the job itself.

I like having the freedom to choose and set these stats the way I want, and not have to change them every time I change my class, or have them change with the job. But that's my opinion.

Ya, it sucks for min/maxers but I play both SCH/SMN regularly, without issue.

Boom there it is. I'm a "min/maxer". Another glorious cop-out term. You know, some people work at wal-mart all their lives and are totally fine with accepting mediocrity. Others are driven to perform and achieve. If we were able to change our stats when switching jobs, how exactly would it harm your choice of pumping bonus stats into secondary and tertiary stats? Right, it wouldn't. But your voice that we, the other end of the spectrum, should be restricted is simply inconsiderate, selfish, and unreasonable.

[WildSnipe]

Boom there it is. I'm a "min/maxer". Another glorious cop-out term. You know, some people work at wal-mart all their lives and are totally fine with accepting mediocrity. Others are driven to perform and achieve. If we were able to change our stats when switching jobs, how exactly would it harm your choice of pumping bonus stats into secondary and tertiary stats? Right, it wouldn't. But your voice that we, the other end of the spectrum, should be restricted is simply inconsiderate, selfish, and unreasonable.

I've got a few other terms for you. Entitled, Spoiled, and Demanding. It's fine to be driven to perform and achieve, but that also comes with hard choices and commitments.

[Sinth]

I've got a few other terms for you. Entitled, Spoiled, and Demanding. It's fine to be driven to perform and achieve, but that also comes with hard choices and commitments.

Coming from the guy who told me to pump stats into INT on my SCH and just use Cleric stance I'll take your comments in relative perspective.

[Delmontyb]

Boom there it is. I'm a "min/maxer". Another glorious cop-out term. You know, some people work at wal-mart all their lives and are totally fine with accepting mediocrity. Others are driven to perform and achieve. If we were able to change our stats when switching jobs, how exactly would it harm your choice of pumping bonus stats into secondary and tertiary stats? Right, it wouldn't. But your voice that we, the other end of the spectrum, should be restricted is simply inconsiderate, selfish, and unreasonable.

I never called you a "min/maxer" but you seem to have willingly taken the title and applied it to yourself. You also seem to be taking my opinion as an offense to your own, and that is where debate and rhetoric break down. When in reality, I expressed my opinion that I like the class and bonus system the way it is, and for reasons that again if they were going to let you change it all the time, they might as well get rid of it, and add those points to the jobs themselves.

Also, you assume much, you assume that we are on two ends of some made up spectrum, and even still, my example works for both "ends of the spectrum" as it allows everyone to have the best stats, it just removes freedom of choice.

I expressed my opinion that I like the system the way it is, and you took offense to it, your being too sensitive, I wish you luck.

[Meta]

then what's the point of having the bonus stats in the first place, they should just take that away and add those points to the job itself.

That's the problem. There is no point in having the stat allotment system. Every other class dumps all of their points into one stat, period. There is no choice - SE is making you add the points that should have been granted the instant you heard the "fwoosh" level up sound.

SCH and SMN are the only jobs that negatively affected by this. This sucks for people who want to be dedicated to both jobs. You can go 15/15 or 30/0, so "big deal", but if you consider that upgrading a three or four pieces of Darklight to ilvl 90 gear is typically ~+20-25 main stat boost at best, it's kinda discouraging.

You could put all your points in INT and then turn on your Cleric Stance.

lol

[Nahara]

That's the problem. There is no point in having the stat allotment system. Every other class dumps all of their points into one stat, period.

Maybe that's because every other class only has one job associated with it right now, while Arcanist has two. Arcanists have to make a choice between wanting to be a Summoner or a Scholar; and guess what, when a damage-dealer job for the Gladiator gets released, Gladiators have to decide between being a Paladin and being whatever the DD job is, and Conjurers will eventually have to decide between White Mage and whatever DD job that gets released for them.

The bonus attributes do have a point, it's just that most of the players don't utilize it because every class but one doesn't yet have to make a choice between multiple roles.

[chrillix]

So the point of the bonus attribute system is not to provide a customizable experience, but to restrict the armory system that this game so loudly promotes?