Does else anyone miss "open dungeons"? Old FFXIers?

[HorrorStory]

That 'exploration' asset is only effective until you get a map of the dungeon. Then all of that goes away.

Really, 'exploration' and 'danger' are dead in this era. The Intermet has all the answers we need to all the things we need to know in these types of games. We can go directly to our destination unimpeded if we know where to look it up online. Max-level, true-detection mob in your way? Just run past it, no danger there. Those elements of dungeoneering are pretty archaic, and easily worked around imo.

[ApolloGenX]

Just run past it, no danger there. Those elements of dungeoneering are pretty archaic, and easily worked around imo.

You mean risk and consequences?

Yes, they are pretty much gone. Unfortunately. I am not one that misses the old grind, for sure. I do like a little spice to keep things interesting. Right now most games have the feeling of a petting zoo, where players are giants and all but raid enemies are baby animals.

You go to the dungeon ride and kill the puppets... the boss might be a bit more of a game, but not really challenging, because again - no consequences, really. Even if you do manage to die...it's just funny. Just get back up and whack a mole!

I kind of feel like developers have become handlers and players are like small kids. They don't want to do anything to hurt our self esteem or frighten us.... it's really kind of creepy. I get more excitement out of passive entertainment like Walking Dead than I do out of most MMO content nowadays.

[Kako0404]

That 'exploration' asset is only effective until you get a map of the dungeon. Then all of that goes away.

Really, 'exploration' and 'danger' are dead in this era. The Intermet has all the answers we need to all the things we need to know in these types of games. We can go directly to our destination unimpeded if we know where to look it up online. Max-level, true-detection mob in your way? Just run past it, no danger there. Those elements of dungeoneering are pretty archaic, and easily worked around imo.

Not having maps for Necropolis and Temple of Ugottapee creates immersion since the adventurer actually needs to remember the way (hug left till u see lamp, turn right till u get to pond; treasure hunting style). OR spam <pos> and duo screen for a map online, which is still much more difficult than it is right now.