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  1. #741
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    Zaranghae's Avatar
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    Nanako Chan
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    Hi, I've been trying the above post's rotation as well as this one: HT [IR] PH [BFB] ID [LS] DE [PS] CT [JUMP] TT [SSD] VT [LS] FT [DFD]
    Can anyone tell me which would be better for DPS? They're both nice to use, and the only trouble I have is incorporating SSD and DFD, since their animation recovery times take forever.
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  2. #742
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    Avon Rekaes
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    Hi guys! So, I have a question... I am sorry if it's been answered before, but I'm not even sure what to search for. I've been practicing my rotation now that I'm ready for endgame stuff. Most of the time I can get a HT-buffed FT of at the end of the HT-Fr-Ph-ID-Di-CT-TT-VT-FT combo, but now that I've started trying to incorporate oGCD abiltiies, I can't seem to get the damage from FT off before the HT buff timer runs out. But I'm in the middle of the animation when it does... so... does it count? Does the attack take a snapshot of my buffed status when I hit the button, or when the damage is applied?

    EDIT: Just wanna point out that I did read the opening posts by Ayvar, and I know that DoTs are "snapshotted" upon button press, not application. I'm just wondering if that's only for DoTs or for every ability.
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    Last edited by AvonRekaes; 12-11-2013 at 08:10 AM.

  3. #743
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    Ayvar Bjornstad
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvonRekaes View Post
    Hi guys! So, I have a question... I am sorry if it's been answered before, but I'm not even sure what to search for. I've been practicing my rotation now that I'm ready for endgame stuff. Most of the time I can get a HT-buffed FT of at the end of the HT-Fr-Ph-ID-Di-CT-TT-VT-FT combo, but now that I've started trying to incorporate oGCD abiltiies, I can't seem to get the damage from FT off before the HT buff timer runs out. But I'm in the middle of the animation when it does... so... does it count? Does the attack take a snapshot of my buffed status when I hit the button, or when the damage is applied?

    EDIT: Just wanna point out that I did read the opening posts by Ayvar, and I know that DoTs are "snapshotted" upon button press, not application. I'm just wondering if that's only for DoTs or for every ability.
    Just switch to a Fracture-less rotation (there are a couple in the guide). You could also dig one out of the previous pages of the thread, or make one of your own!

    Also every ability snapshots buffs/debuffs.
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  4. #744
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    Avon Rekaes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    Also every ability snapshots buffs/debuffs.
    Phew! Alright, if that's the case then I don't need to switch. I can consistently hit the button for FT before the HT buff runs out, even with Fracture and oGCD abilities. I was just worried about those "- Heavy Thrust ... Full Thrust [Damage]!" messages after I hit the button.
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  5. #745
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvonRekaes View Post
    Phew! Alright, if that's the case then I don't need to switch. I can consistently hit the button for FT before the HT buff runs out, even with Fracture and oGCD abilities. I was just worried about those "- Heavy Thrust ... Full Thrust [Damage]!" messages after I hit the button.
    Yeah, HT will come off during the FT, but the buff icon should still be up when you actually hit the FT button
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  6. #746
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    Exiras Nex
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Any plans to update the BiS list to accommodate the allagan spear most likely being best come 2.1?
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  7. #747
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiras View Post
    most likely
    The operative words in that sentence. Let's wait to see the stats.

    But yes, it will get updated if the T5 spear is better (which it most likely will be).
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    Last edited by Ayvar; 12-11-2013 at 10:38 PM.
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  8. #748
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    Hulvein Wyrmblood
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    Yeah, I'm interested to see the stats on it, personally.
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  9. #749
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    Tiger Undie
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    Fisher Lv 100
    since its only a 5 ilvl increase its stats should be very close to:

    47 Dmg, 33 Str, 37/38 Vit, 28 Det, 27/28 SS

    instead of the current

    46, 31, 35, 26, 26
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  10. #750
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    Nota Taru
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    The operative words in that sentence. Let's wait to see the stats.

    But yes, it will get updated if the T5 spear is better (which it most likely will be).
    I hope the revised list alows for more Wyrm armor, it looks so good with the spear.
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    Last edited by sfxsigma; 12-12-2013 at 05:11 PM.

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