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  1. #31
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    Seems like it should be automatic. You always have 8 crafting leves whether you want 'em or not. Shouldn't have to divide the other 8 between fighting/gathering. Or if the current ratio must be kept, let people pick which 2 get a full 8. Maybe some people would go 8 fighting, 8 gathering and say screw crafting. It should've accounted for all playstyles like that to begin with.

    I don't think brief gathering leves are enough to drastically alter the economy, but if that's a concern make any new ones the kind where you're finding quest items rather than real mats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    At this time, there aren't any plans to separate Fieldcraft leves from the shared reset timer with Battlecraft leves.
    Can they explain why not?
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    Last edited by Iron; 06-03-2011 at 01:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron View Post
    Can they explain why not?
    Well I for example am kinda short on time doing all 8 crafting and battle leves every 36h already cause there is still crafts and item farming and whatnot to do in between. So I'd rather have 16 leves to do in a few hours, rather than 24 leves in even more time, cause then there is even less time to do for the stuff I actually want to do. And now imagine the game actually has a lot more content...would you be willing to spend let's say 6h every 36h just to get the leves out of the way when there is content to fill out 20h of that 36? By the time the game is where it should be I'd be more than fine when the leve reset timer is set back to 48h, cause by then 36h will make my schedule very strict to actually get everything done I want to have done.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    i don't think its necessary. Harvesting leves give -huge- sp bonuses and with abilities that double your sp you can easily be getting 1500 sp per "log". So i think what they have now is fine. Only thing i'd like to see is maybe -ONE- more ;eve per week at each rank in each area.
    You gotta be kidding me. Gathering leves do not scale with your rank, sure they are amazing when you first get them but once you start reaching the highest rank for that cap it seriously diminishes. For instance a rank 34 doing rank 30 leves gets about 1/4 the sp you will get at rank 35 doing 40s. Once you outgrow those rank 40 leves theres nothing higher, it just get worse and worse. 40+ is a nightmare

    Your talking about Sweat of brow to double SP (a Botany exclusive) and its not like its up all the time. If your lucky you can get sweat of brow with aspect up and get that log then yes its usually a lot of sp. If your in those difficult ranks then its still only going to be around 900 sp "per log" which is only 3 items with aspect not affecting any of the other items you obtain on that leve. If you dont have sweat of brow up then its often 300-500 sp per log WITH aspect.

    So often times im getting 3k per leve plus maybe another 1k for the other random items I can get? Compare that to something like dunesfolk for dinner where people can get 15-20k on one leve. The logging point leve has no chance for the high sp item ones but aspect counts toward every item obtained, which is often 150-250 per strike depending on if your high rank compared to your camp.

    Theres also the fact that its ONE camp per city with only 2 leves, not 3. So if you want to do all 6 leves possible for your rank you have to waste time teleporting to every city and running out to every rank 40 camp.

    If you get around 6k per camp which is close to what I get then thats maybe 1/6 or even less than what battle classes would get for level linking in a group for a camp. I dont even think I can get the same sp doing 6 leves than a decent leve link with dunesfolk.

    I just hit 40 on my botanist and it was much harder to obtain than any of my 50s, crafting or battle.
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    Last edited by Choc; 06-03-2011 at 02:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    At this time, there aren't any plans to separate Fieldcraft leves from the shared reset timer with Battlecraft leves.
    This is pretty lame that they have no plans to separate them. It really makes no sense why they cant be separate. Nothing worse then me wanting to try and do some fieldcraft leves from time to time but forget I just screwed my self over on leveling my battling classes cause I used up the total leves to go pick some flowers.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    At this time, there aren't any plans to separate Fieldcraft leves from the shared reset timer with Battlecraft leves.
    I wish the devs would reconsider this.

  7. #37
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    More SP is nice and good, but we need more grade spots, too
    Botanists and miners has only grade 1-5 spots, while fishers has a lot more.

    It's like when DoW has 1-40 camps and DoM only 1-30 camps. You get no sp (increased or not) with 45 in a rank 30 camp
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-03-2011 at 06:58 PM.

  8. #38
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    Morgan Hirostar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    At this time, there aren't any plans to separate Fieldcraft leves from the shared reset timer with Battlecraft leves.
    Why are you people "Liking" this post? You are happy with fieldcraft and battle on the same timer? Things do not change, unless you continue to challenge and bring upon that change. I know it is not Bayohne's fault, but I would have rather read, "Spoke to the dev team reguarding this issue, they aggree this puts an unnecessary degree of difficulty on gathering classes, and will look into it after the Battle System change".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    Why are you people "Liking" this post? You are happy with fieldcraft and battle on the same timer? Things do not change, unless you continue to challenge and bring upon that change. I know it is not Bayohne's fault, but I would have rather read, "Spoke to the dev team reguarding this issue, they aggree this puts an unnecessary degree of difficulty on gathering classes, and will look into it after the Battle System change".
    Personally I dont think them sharing a timer is a big deal, at least for me. I dont have enough time on my hands to really do both battle and fieldcraft leves. My problem is how many are available to us, the length of those leves, as well as the set amount of sp we get outside of leves. 45+ is a joke currently, especially for botanists and miners.
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    I hope they change their minds on this, I hardly ever get to do the field craft leves because I use all 8 on battle craft leves to level with my friends. Leves are one of the few things in this game that give you a reason to group up with friends. Harvesting on the other hand is a solo activity, sure it would be nice to have some leves or quests to complete instead of mindlessly running from node to node but I cannot see trading a few of my 8 available leve slots to do so.
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