Monk vs Dragoon DPS

[PArcher]

Dragoon is much easier to play

Maybe its because I have the class down about as well as I can get it...but I've been seeing a ton more bad DRG than bad MNK recently. Not using HT, using CT-combo right as a trash-mob dies...Jumping into an obvious AoE...thankfully I haven't seen any BFBing right before an unavoidable AoE yet lol


On-topic, if you have a MNK and DRG in similar gear, the MNK should out-DPS the DRG on single targets (not by a ton, but enough that it matters), but the DRG will completely destroy the MNK on AoE.

[BlueMage]

Maybe its because I have the class down about as well as I can get it...but I've been seeing a ton more bad DRG than bad MNK recently. Not using HT, using CT-combo right as a trash-mob dies...Jumping into an obvious AoE...thankfully I haven't seen any BFBing right before an unavoidable AoE yet lol

That has nothing to do with Dragoon being a difficult class. That has to do with a lot of dumb Leeroy Jenkins types being attracted to the "Dragon Knight" archetype and giving us a bad reputation. Its like Bards getting hit by plumes: No matter how simple and convenient a class may be, it cant fix a stupid/bad player.

On-topic, if you have a MNK and DRG in similar gear, the MNK should out-DPS the DRG on single targets (not by a ton, but enough that it matters), but the DRG will completely destroy the MNK on AoE.

True. Though things like fight duration and positionals/movement still matter. A DRG will out DPS a MNK on Demonwall, for example, because DRG only needs to go to the side once every 20 seconds to maintain their damage buff, whereas most Monk abilities deal reduced damage if not executed from the correct position. If I run in circles non-stop while tanking on my Paladin, the Monk is gonna be a lot more irritated than the Dragoon.

[CrimzunAeoun]

That has nothing to do with Dragoon being a difficult class. That has to do with a lot of dumb Leeroy Jenkins types being attracted to the "Dragon Knight" archetype and giving us a bad reputation. Its like Bards getting hit by plumes: No matter how simple and convenient a class may be, it cant fix a stupid/bad player.



True. Though things like fight duration and positionals/movement still matter. A DRG will out DPS a MNK on Demonwall, for example, because DRG only needs to go to the side once every 20 seconds to maintain their damage buff, whereas most Monk abilities deal reduced damage if not executed from the correct position. If I run in circles non-stop while tanking on my Paladin, the Monk is gonna be a lot more irritated than the Dragoon.

I am not sure if anyone can hit the flank of the demon wall, ive tried as a dragoon and never did i notice heavy thrust to activate :/

[Warrlordd]

I am not sure if anyone can hit the flank of the demon wall, ive tried as a dragoon and never did i notice heavy thrust to activate :/

You need to stand right up near the wall beside his face, but it can be done.

[Remn]

You need to stand right up near the wall beside his face, but it can be done.

you can also use the target circle on the boss the determined the flank position.

[Remn]

I am not sure if anyone can hit the flank of the demon wall, ive tried as a dragoon and never did i notice heavy thrust to activate :/

yes you can do flank on Demon wall. my MNK did 600-700 crit on demon wall with flank rotation, you can only get those number when you atking on flank.

[CrimzunAeoun]

yes you can do flank on Demon wall. my MNK did 600-700 crit on demon wall with flank rotation, you can only get those number when you atking on flank.

i must try this again lol because i have gotten a black screen before for standing too close to demon wall and then i would be teleported to the entranced of the room, I think it was intended incase someone got past the wall during the fight but i always thought the actual flank of the wall was not accessible