What do you feel went RIGHT with FFXIV?

[Physic]

the battle system.

ill be honest i went back to play ffxi today, and damn, that system really really was not good.

Having control of your types of attacks, linking to other attacks, positioning mattering, fast tp, and tp pools, a large variety of skills to choose from, being able to customize your skills to the type of fighting you may have to do. shorter more dangerous battles.
I know a lot of people hate the system, but imo it really was a cool thing. I hope the new battle system can capture its strengths.

[Demacia]

the battle system.

ill be honest i went back to play ffxi today, and damn, that system really really was not good.

Having control of your types of attacks, linking to other attacks, positioning mattering, fast tp, and tp pools, a large variety of skills to choose from, being able to customize your skills to the type of fighting you may have to do. shorter more dangerous battles.
I know a lot of people hate the system, but imo it really was a cool thing. I hope the new battle system can capture its strengths.

Linking to attacks? We playing street fighter?

Position don't mean shit unless you're using a WS that like seismic shock.

Fast TP sure but the large variety of skills we get are often throwaway skills or the next tier of a move.

I just don't get the enthusiasm for this game's battle or suggesting that it's better than FFXI in any way outside of being faster at lower levels.

[Gramul]

Linking to attacks? We playing street fighter?

Position don't mean shit unless you're using a WS that like seismic shock.

Fast TP sure but the large variety of skills we get are often throwaway skills or the next tier of a move.

I just don't get the enthusiasm for this game's battle or suggesting that it's better than FFXI in any way outside of being faster at lower levels.

Actually, position does matter a little. I do more damage hitting an enemy from the side or back than from the front most of the time. I think it's just very underdeveloped and underexplained.

[Demacia]

Actually, position does matter a little. I do more damage hitting an enemy from the side or back than from the front most of the time. I think it's just very underdeveloped and underexplained.

I understand that the concept is there but it's NOTHING like they hyped it up to be pre-release. Then again, neither was any other feature in the game. Still waiting for proper PUG stances not fucking light punch granting a small bonus for a short while.

[Davorok]

Extending the "Free Trial" is the only thing they got right, yet I'm still too bored to play.

Character Models are nice.

[Physic]

Linking to attacks? We playing street fighter?

Position don't mean shit unless you're using a WS that like seismic shock.

Fast TP sure but the large variety of skills we get are often throwaway skills or the next tier of a move.

I just don't get the enthusiasm for this game's battle or suggesting that it's better than FFXI in any way outside of being faster at lower levels.

they let me link heavy>flurry, and evade>jarring>haymaker. This is the playstyle of a pugilist, so maybe it makes sense being like SF.
Position matters alot when you are trying to avoid unecessary damage, and fighting multiple monsters, you are more likely to get hit from the back and less likely to evade, also your directional and cone attacks are more usefull if monsters are roughly in front of you. at the same time you benefit from moving to avoid enemy Weaponskills. You also get more accuracy from attacking the monster in its rear.
you got basically 3 types of positional Ws
line of target
cone
aoe

which to use, is very dynamic, especially on low man behests, or leves, and probably would have been even more so in dungeons.

You dont really have any throw away skills, you put the skills you want and need in place, if a skill is throw away you dont put it, dif WS serve different purposes.

stuff i have on bar

heavy trammel low tp cost cone skill
aura strike enhanced flying damage and general aoe
concussive ACC lowering debuff and damage (integral to evasion tanking)

every skill i put on my bar has use, and there often skills i wish i could put in there, and i dont even have all the great skills.

FFXI battle, i went back today, you are used to it, you have done it for years, but its really bad. people talk about this games battle UI but ffxi? is a menu you literally have to scroll through skills to pop them, without putting macros, it would be nigh impossible to do something as basic as sneak attack boost >weaponskill.
so then you learn macroing.
Battles are long and drawn out for no reason, i fought a easy prey sand lizard, it knew i was going to win, i knew i was going to win, i knew it would do about 40% of my health it knew it would, and yet it took an incredibly long time to kill.

the fight consisted of me hitting dodge and focus macros, and waiting for tp to do boost>asuran fists with a drain samba and curing waltz thrown in. There was no reason to dodge weapon skills, no reactive skills when i evade, or parry. I have virtually no choice of what weaponskills to do. there is one good weaponskill, and its the only weaponskill of any importance, once you do said weaponskill, you once again wait.

Individual battle in FFXI is horrible, team battle is just as boring, but at least your hanging out with people and can try to relish thier actions as much as your own.

you say faster at lower levels, do you mean battle pace, or exp gained? because i dont judge a battle system by exp gained.


really stop for a second and think, what about ffxi battle system itself is better than ffxiv? all i can really think of, is /assist.

[Mack]

Having control of your types of attacks, linking to other attacks, positioning mattering, fast tp, and tp pools, a large variety of skills to choose from, being able to customize your skills to the type of fighting you may have to do. shorter more dangerous battles

Lol you may have had an argument if you weren't pulling stuff out of nowhere. The 3 points you made that I bolded is saying the same exact thing 3 times...

linking to other attacks

You mean like Skillchains? you mean how they were a hundred times better executed than Battle Regimens?

positioning mattering

Thief and tank positioning matter more in FFXI than all the classes combined with the battle system we have currently in FFXIV.

shorter more dangerous battles

I'm still sweating from the last fight I had with a marmot that took a few seconds to drop and hardly posed any threat.

All this isn't to say FFXI's battle system was that much better, but it was better because at least it required some thought. FFXIV is a zerg system and has been since release...especially if we're looking at leve and behest parties...if you're a mage you can hardly get a cast in before the mob dies. FFXIV's battle system is definitely more hands on but if it was better they wouldn't be changing it now would they? and if FFXI's was worse its a surprise it lasted 10 years.