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  1. #71
    Player
    Steeled's Avatar
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    Character
    Conchobar Pridwen
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsi View Post
    A poorly geared whm can still pull hate with medica 2
    This, an i55 whm can pull hate off the best geared tank if they're truly careless with spamming aoe heals. The treasure is when these fools start ranting at the tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I remember when in FFXI people bard tanked Fafnir, or RDM tanked several hnms then SE put in a nerf to their abilities enmity generation.
    The difference with those is that both were quite good tanks, while manipulating the enmity of their jobs. 2 bard cotanks could stay at enmity cap, bouncing hate and rolling shadows. WHM, as it stands, will never be a good tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by zdub303 View Post
    It may, as some will say, promote less skillful play but it does make the game play feel a lot smoother when healing you arent actually doing is no longer causing agro.
    In WHM's case, the still is still watching your mp, even if enmity is not a concern. It is also simply not fair to the job that scholar rarely ever has enmity issues. I've never had Titan pulled off me by a whm or sch, but I've seen whm's climb freakishly high mid-fight. while scholars are often last or near-last in the hate list.
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    Shield Lob (Can change red text to Tomahawk and it will work perfectly Warriors)
    /macroicon "Shield Lob"
    /ac "Shield Lob" <t>
    /marking attack1 <t>

    Better "macro switching", give it a read: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivhotbars

  2. #72
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    DenzelTaru's Avatar
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    Character
    Denzel Taru
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    1 other thing , healers need to know what their enmity is on boss without having to target switch to boss . Like make focus target show enmity bar .
    ^ this, its not really fair to just go off the coloured icon.. i have been thinking of making all my healing macros <tt> so i can target the boss and heal his target.. this can cause problems though i guess.. theres also <ft> i guess.. but yea the post i quoted has it.. we need to see our hate generation (maybe not me as a sch so much)
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  3. #73
    Player
    SongJoohee's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Au Ra
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
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  4. #74
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    Mihael_Longclaw's Avatar
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    Limsa~
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    Character
    Misa Strongarm
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    WHM needs a buff, look how much healing he requires! /sarcasm

    Otherwise great job, was alot of fun, just watching it xD
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  5. #75
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    Wobble's Avatar
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    Character
    Wobble Wibblewobb
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Still no video.
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  6. #76
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Character
    Peanut Little
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Whm has always been the most survivable job as long as they don't get one shotted or something. Play all the jobs solo and you will know that whm are capable of doing shit others cannot cuz they just won't die. I've solo fate bosses my level as whm numerous times and pretty sure I can solo many dungeon bosses too. I can solo dhorma-chimera easy if I had stun.

    That being said, you guys had 3 healers and shit crazy gear; why not just get a tank who will do more dps?
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  7. #77
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Character
    Sebazy Spiritwalker
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Didn't realise I was beaten to it, grats to them though, it's interesting to see the radically different methods being used here!

    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    That being said, you guys had 3 healers and shit crazy gear; why not just get a tank who will do more dps?
    Keep in mind that even with my HP, Mountain Buster near enough insta killed me without debuffs, I couldn't just throw on that gear and step up to the tanking plate in a pug. Both my run and the JP group linked above used a multitude of debuffs to keep things manageable. As for your closing point, this was purely a bit of fun seeing if we could execute a daft idea of mine. Turned out it wasn't as daft as I initially thought!
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