Is Siren not getting a primal fight?...

[Felis]

the fact that Garuda can summon two other of her species show thats there are more than the one Primal, Garuda just might be the one worshipped more. And to those saying that ff8 doesnt count, then why is Carbuncle count hes was just as useless as Carby except Siren would be a perfect egi for Summoner cause she was an enfeebling summon in 8.

But Garuda didn't summon Ifrit and Titan. It was the Amalj'aars and the Kobolds who were captured by the Ixals.

Carby is just a mathematic being

[KoujiGeki]

But Garuda didn't summon Ifrit and Titan. It was the Amalj'aars and the Kobolds who were captured by the Ixals.

Carby is just a mathematic being

i ment superna and chirada

[myahele]

I wonder if siren is somehow related to Garuda?

Like a less powerful younger sister that branched off and does her thing. Elder or lesser primal a primal is a primal. While I don't think she is a primal she does seem to have enough potential to become one or a psuedo primal ala king mog

I'd also like to know about how primals came to be.

[FMElan]

the fact that Garuda can summon two other of her species show thats there are more than the one Primal, Garuda just might be the one worshipped more. And to those saying that ff8 doesnt count, then why is Carbuncle count hes was just as useless as Carby except Siren would be a perfect egi for Summoner cause she was an enfeebling summon in 8.

Nobody's saying that FFVIII doesn't count. But, once again, your logic is faulty. Carbuncle has been used as a summon in FF5, 6, 8, 9, 11, 13 and 14, along with Revanant Wings, Tactics, Tactics Advance, etc. Siren's been a summon in FF6, 8, and Revanant Wings, along with having a minor appearance in 13. If your argument is that Carbuncle is on the same iconic level as Siren, then you're just plain wrong.

With that said, HM Garuda summoning the two sisters literally proves nothing. They aren't primals, they just assist during primal fights. For all you know, she just creates them out of feathers.

[gintoki88]

I was already kinda disappointed she got relegated to a story battle. Now she is a dungeon boss. Will she ever get a Primal Battle? Will I ever be able to obtain Siren themed primal weapons?

SQenux plz. Siren Primal Battle 2014 make it happen

edit: okay so Siren isn't technically a primal, but as DenzelTaru pointed out neither is Good King Moggle Mog

Basically I don't really care whether she is a primal or not. Is she going to get an 8-man fight is what I'm really asking. I was expecting that she'd show up as an 8-man fight.

Siren is more noted as a recurring boss/enemy then a summoning in the ff series.

On a side note, Good King moogle is a Online exclusive, same as Garuda

[ReplicaX]

the fact that Garuda can summon two other of her species show thats there are more than the one Primal, Garuda just might be the one worshipped more.

They have always been considered named clones. No where does the lore even talk about her having a species. They were named in 1.0 to identify which was Physical weakness and Magical weakness and the names carried over.

[EvokerKeii]

The ability to temper mortals and grow stronger from their worship is what makes you a primal, not just being unique and strong.

[KoujiGeki]

With that said, HM Garuda summoning the two sisters literally proves nothing. They aren't primals, they just assist during primal fights. For all you know, she just creates them out of feathers.

They have always been considered named clones. No where does the lore even talk about her having a species. They were named in 1.0 to identify which was Physical weakness and Magical weakness and the names carried over.

True but then why not just call them Garuda Egis then? I think there are more to their realms just those are the ones that happen to gain more power. I mean Salamander could be chilling in Ifrits realm for all we know.

[FMElan]

True but then why not just call them Garuda Egis then? I think there are more to their realms just those are the ones that happen to gain more power. I mean Salamander could be chilling in Ifrits realm for all we know.

First, because they AREN'T Garuda Egis. Second, because when they WERE named, in 1.x, there weren't Egis.