Tanks and PvP

[Ehayte]

Even with the abilities you mentioned to avoid CC it would still be broken. We'd have to use the heavy removal every couple of seconds which will probably have an animation which means we're NOT using other skills even if its off GCD as this game includes animation lockout.

You just made the assumption that 1) the skill will have an animation, 2) Someone is hitting you with heavy every 2 seconds, thus making them use low-damage skills to apply the effect to you so that you have to clear yourself of the affect 3) Either of those things would "break" PvP. I don't know if you can definitively say any of those things at this point - after the next Live Letter let's talk again.

Guys what do you think about Shield Swipe? Pacification for 6 seconds..For example if I am fighting a WARRIOR i have a successful block I use Shield Swipe it would hurt the Warrior alot. What do you guys think?

I'd say you are on to something!

[Enfarious]

I keep hearing about front lines, but I haven't seen anything about it (I think), teach me Obi Wan.

It was mentioned by Yoshi a long time ago as one of the PvP "arenas" to be implemented. Intended as a large scale (think army on army action) PvP between nations and such. There wasn't a ton of detail beyond "massive" battles, Magitek armor on the field, "huge" number of players, and one or 2 bits of concept art.

[TekkaTakeda]

I have never seen anything to suggest that Tank's hit for 80% of what a BLM/MNK/DRG/BRD can do.

I don't have the exact numbers but from a few hours of dummy parses a month ago on my WAR I averaged 250 DPS (until TP ran out). I've acquired quite a bit of gear since then so it was more of an assumption that we could be around 80%.

Regardless, nobody's hitting like a wet noodle tank wise.

[Enfarious]

I don't have the exact numbers but from a few hours of dummy parses a month ago on my WAR I averaged 250 DPS (until TP ran out). I've acquired quite a bit of gear since then so it was more of an assumption that we could be around 80%.

Regardless, nobody's hitting like a wet noodle tank wise.

Which parser do you use, and what do your rotations look like.
I ask not to troll but because I don't get this high and wonder if I can't optimize my rotations based on yours.

[TekkaTakeda]

SE>SB>repeat

I do not use Fracture.

+1 w/ 30STR when I parsed but my STR was only 400-405 solo.

If you used +STR pots frequently then you could bump that up a bit. I've thought about macroing it with Berserk.

However, since this thread is about PvP, Brutal Swing(to lock someone in position)+SE+Holmgang as Brutal is about to wear off+SB combo should be a very large chunk of HP gone. Depending on how resists/defense works, we should be able to take off 1/2 of someone's HP if not more. I say this because I expect there to be a stat or PvP armor that reduces the amount of damage taken from players. I understand there are skills that will break CC, but they will have decent CDs I'm sure.

Also, even with a CC reduction stat, let's say 20%, we're still looking at 4s stun from Brutal which is enough to get two attacks off before melee sync becomes an issue.

At least according to my experience in other games namely DAoC, GW1, AC: Darktide, UO, Shadowbane, etc.

[DeeJayImut]

well...

if u comparing PLD dps to this...



then the answer is yes

we are doing wet noodles

now imagine warrior with all those [fill in yourself]... in a pvp, damn its scary

[OmegaSinX]

SE>SB>repeat

I do not use Fracture.

+1 w/ 30STR when I parsed but my STR was only 400-405 solo.

If you used +STR pots frequently then you could bump that up a bit. I've thought about macroing it with Berserk.

Theres a Macro for Items!? Whats the command, Ive been searching for this everywhere. I thought it was /item "Mega Potion of ???" <me> but that doesnt work.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Except taunt doesn't exists in this game. If you're referring to provoke, not a taunt, then it has zero duration and applies no spell or effect to the target at all. Kinda don't think that's gonna be the case.

Provoke in FFXI also had no duration or effect applied, yet in PvP had a drastically different effect (forced enemy to target you for a short time; also prevented them from using self-target things). It's very possible some PvE abilities will behave differently in PvP.

[Fyreus]

Tbh i wanna see more gld use like the ability to use PVE skills as a class and not as a job. It's pretty sad how classes have fallen to the wayside.

[TekkaTakeda]

Theres a Macro for Items!? Whats the command, Ive been searching for this everywhere. I thought it was /item "Mega Potion of ???" <me> but that doesnt work.

I think it only worked in beta. If you have a programmable mouse or keyboard, you could just set it to do a macro that hits two hotkeys (one for pot and one for Zerk or whatever else) in a row. That's the best I can think of at this time.