CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[C-croft]

True, but having bettergear goes a long way towards making content easier. Also, there are people that still mess things up no matter how often they've been in coil. One of my good RL friends and their static are still wiping to Turn 2 3 weeks after forming their static.

Well, it all depends on how many classes they want to gear at the same time. I for one would love to be able to play other classes in Turn 5, but currently I can't as my Myth/Coil loot is taken by my PLD. Also, when the games producer cites a Coil raiders motivation to due CT as "for vanity" it's very telling.

True, but I also remember a time when end game crafting was 'useless' when Yoshi stated that BiS is all dungeon/tome gear. But now we see people spending millions on HQ 2 stars.... We have to look at the big picture. Skill and gear go hand in hand.

Because Yoshi states CT is for vanity, doesn't mean the gear is pointless. Saying lightning gear is for vanity is more appropriate. Since iLvl is all the rage these days, how is i80>i70 worthless and only useful for vanity? (rhetorical) With the tome cap increase going up to 450(possibly) it is now 2.5 months to fully gear in AF+1(still ridiculous for just one job honestly) but supplement that with coil and CT, you can have a very reasonably geared job in as little as 5-6 weeks. It doesn't tell us anything because he said that. He also told us WARs were fine and really powerful in coil. We really don't even know the full stipulations of said lockout. (I am leaning more to the 1 char/1 lockout which is still uber meh)

[Ri_ri]

Pretty sure you've got this backwards. The hardcores will have full i80 the week CT comes out with no lockout. The casuals will now be an entire gear set behind.

How exactly does no lockout help people who don't run CT 100 times a week?

The hardcores are already on level 90 gear... giving them level 80 gear for side jobs won't make a difference.

I think I'm an odd example of this. I have four jobs in DL + relic, the CT lockout hurts me badly because I'm so far behind the hardcores and level 80 is all I'd be able to get. I've been done Coil for three weeks and I've made it past T2 only one time, and got two pieces (one for main job and another for DRG, lol).

[Arkista]

The hardcores are already on level 90 gear... giving them level 80 gear for side jobs won't make a difference.

I think I'm an odd example of this. I have four jobs in DL + relic, the CT lockout hurts me badly because I'm so far behind the hardcores and level 80 is all I'd be able to get. I've been done Coil for three weeks and I've made it past T2 only one time, and got two pieces (one for main job and another for DRG, lol).

Nope you are right according to Yoshi P

"The rewards will be item level 80. While the equipment you can purchase with Allagan tomestones of mythology and the equipment you obtain from the Binding Coil of Bahamut are comparatively stronger, we'll be implementing the vanity system in patch 2.2 which will allow you to change the appearance of your character's equipment, so we hope you use it for the equipment you find in Crystal Tower. Also, keep in mind that the amount of players who have obtained upgraded relic weapons and mythology equipment or are challenging the Binding Coil still make up only a fraction of the entire population. There are many players who are waiting for the difficulty to be toned down a bit before they challenge the Binding Coil, so we'd like these players to have fun obtaining item level 80 equipment, getting past hard-mode Titan, and gradually progressing through the game".

"Also, keep in mind that the amount of players who have obtained upgraded relic weapons and mythology equipment or are challenging the Binding Coil still make up only a fraction of the entire population".

So those of us who are doing this is only a small fraction.

You are a very good example (Even better would be a player with one level 50). I don't try to degrade players on their playtime . Every week Casual players fall further and further behind. And Putting a lockout on lower level gear is just going to make it even worse.


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You know with all these Crystal Tower threads I'm really surprised a DEV Member hasn't said anything. Maybe they are thinking about it and will do away with the week lockout and change it to 72hrs.

[C-croft]

You know with all these Crystal Tower threads I'm really surprised a DEV Member hasn't said anything. Maybe they are thinking about it and will do away with the week lockout and change it to 72hrs.

Devil's advocate aside, I would like this.

[Babydoll]

You know with all these Crystal Tower threads I'm really surprised a DEV Member hasn't said anything. Maybe they are thinking about it and will do away with the week lockout and change it to 72hrs.

Sadly I don't think they care ; ; The way I see it as they have a set vision and that is that. They will make slight small changes but nothing like that... You never know though....

[Tenku]

I just want to grind all night and day! I love playing with my teammates, but sometimes I just want to solo to get that uber rare item!

[Onnslaught]

This is how I see this whole issue... CT should have been in the game at release. It was intended to be in the game at release so people don't have to spend all their time grinding two different 4 man dungeons for full Darklight as the only gear progression outside of Coils. Outside of needing to have CT in the game for release, I really wish people would stop complaining about a lack of content. MMO's don't launch with a ridiculous amount of content. If anyone is expecting this game to compete with the amount of content WoW or any MMO that has been out for years you are going to be disappointed every time you play a new MMO. Give the developers time to put in content instead of demanding it day 1.

I am a fan of the lockouts though, because it prevents people from beating the new content and getting all the best gear too quickly. Especially since they are using a token/tomes system in where you guaranteed to get SOMETHING in the form of loot for your time spent doing dungeons/raids. Hopefully they don't make CT 1 piece of gear per week, and instead make it 1 piece per boss per week. That seems more fair since most people have all classes on 1 character.

[EmSix]

You know with all these Crystal Tower threads I'm really surprised a DEV Member hasn't said anything. Maybe they are thinking about it and will do away with the week lockout and change it to 72hrs.

In all seriousness, what would they even say?
Sorry, we messed up! CT won't have a lockout!
This just won't happen. I've never know SE to own up to a mistake (certainly not one so quickly, at least).
Sorry, we aren't going to change anything.
Waste of time, they may as well say nothing.
We're going to ease the lockout in future patches!
Waste of time, this is already a given.

The only response I could possible see is if they clarify whether or not is if it's a per boss lockout or a per class lockout.

[C-croft]

Sadly I don't think they care ; ; The way I see it as they have a set vision and that is that. They will make slight small changes but nothing like that... You never know though....

Well for the longest time, they kept telling us that 300 myth cap was there to stay, there would be no change. Then poof, all of a sudden they decided it was too low and 450 would be the new weekly target. Of course, they have wavered on this bit too....

[Arkista]

In all seriousness, what would they even say?
Sorry, we messed up! CT won't have a lockout!
This just won't happen. I've never know SE to own up to a mistake (certainly not one so quickly, at least).
Sorry, we aren't going to change anything.
Waste of time, they may as well say nothing.
We're going to ease the lockout in future patches!
Waste of time, this is already a given.

The only response I could possible see is if they clarify whether or not is if it's a per boss lockout or a per class lockout.

There's 4 bosses so I'm sure it will be per boss kinda like how CoB is 4 bosses. Or at least it needs to be. If its 1 piece per boss per week that's up to 4 pieces a week that is fair enough. But if its 1 piece and your locked out on the other 3 bosses then its going to be BS.

Well for the longest time, they kept telling us that 300 myth cap was there to stay, there would be no change. Then poof, all of a sudden they decided it was too low and 450 would be the new weekly target. Of course, they have wavered on this bit too....

450 is way to high if anything it should be like 350 each week, Until 2.2 comes out cause CoB turn6+ should have ilvl95 gear?