Is Siren not getting a primal fight?...

[Felis]

I know I know all FF games are different but I'm just saiyan

What if Shiva ends up just being a dungeon boss tho. I bet more people would be like WTF

Shiva is primal
Primals we already know: Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Leviathan, Shiva, Ramuh, Odin, Bahamut

[Felis]

Seeing as we didn't kill her I imagine she'll show up again. I mean damn she was harder than giaus. I hope she gets an 8 man

She return in 2.1 as the endboss in the hardest 4-man dungeon.

[Jinrya-Geki]

I don't think that's the same thing. The primals seem to do it because they're gods, however, Siren seems to do it because of magic. I don't know... Also, there are multiple Sirens, as in, a full race of them.

Also, I was thinking that in the fight, if she happens to kill a party member, she could use them as a thrall maybe? She does control the dead, so why not you?

Well there are multiple harpies. There's Garuda, Chiruda and Supurna.

Your "proof" is rather lackluster to support your claim. The FF series in general has plenty of regular and boss type mobs that have traits like that.

Main Story: History Repeating

• According to Mimidoa, a siren is behind the recent troubles. (Likely more than one)
• The siren emerges and begins to sing her beguiling song. (Not summoned)
• She summoned undead Thralls and wasn't summoned by them.
• There is no evidence that this Siren consumed aether.

The new video shows no new evidence that this Siren boss is a Primal, Summoned, or needs to consume aether to stay in physical form.

You don't need the beastmen to actually make a ritual to summon primals. Garuda proves this with the Ultima cutscene that she can summon the other primals. What's to say someone isn't doing the same with Siren?

[Requiiem]

make siren a BRD spell

[Felis]

Siren is a primal.

Proof: She has the ability to "touch" or whatever that mind control is just like Ifrit does. She has her thralls fight you as you see a creepy person running on their arms and legs at a player in the video.

She doesn't have a beast tribe though, it's sailors that summon her.

Hmm, no. All what she is doing is singing. You don't need the Echo to be immune against it, only simple ear-plugs.
She summon undeads who lost their soul because they didn't have ear-plugs.

[sharazisspecial]

Mini siren pet for sch please...

Siren would be awesome as a primal fight. It had potential.

[Rapoza]

That was my server on ff11, even for a server name siren got shaft on ff14

[KoujiGeki]

She could be a lesser primal with a lesser means to touch servants. I use to think as you fought Garuda and she claims she touched you ment siren. And I mean there are elder primals like bahamut and Odin so there could be lesser primals and siren could be one.

[Felis]

She could be a lesser primal with a lesser means to touch servants. I use to think as you fought Garuda and she claims she touched you ment siren. And I mean there are elder primals like bahamut and Odin so there could be lesser primals and siren could be one.

Garuda meant Hydalin.
After all, Hydalin speak all the time to your character, not Siren.

[Volsung]

Siren is a primal.

Proof: She has the ability to "touch" or whatever that mind control is just like Ifrit does. She has her thralls fight you as you see a creepy person running on their arms and legs at a player in the video.

She doesn't have a beast tribe though, it's sailors that summon her.

her thralls are just undead, like every great ship graveyard. and she is a siren, singing for mind control is kind of their thing lol

You don't need the beastmen to actually make a ritual to summon primals. Garuda proves this with the Ultima cutscene that she can summon the other primals. What's to say someone isn't doing the same with Siren?

titan and ifrit still had to be pulled out of their beastmen, this does support a connect to their being and the aether needed for the primals, or else garuda would not have needed them