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  1. #61
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    A lot of people are missing the point. The bonus is given to the most needed role. In the video they show a WAR queuing up for a Low level dungeon and DPS is getting the bonus showing a lack of dps queuing for low level dungeons. People seem to be stuck on the fact in my first post I said 50k is a better reward.

    Now I am on a Legacy server where there is so much more gil in the economy then non legacy servers. I know several people who started the game with 90m+ gil. A lot of the crafting materia even today goes for 400k each. When the game came out in the first week base relic weapons were going for 300k-400k super fast a lot of us had crafts leveled from 1.0 and were able to make a lot of easy money. When selling Titan runs were new they were going for 2m a run here, while other servers non legacy they were selling runs for like 200k.

    If its their goal to get the most needed job to queue up and give them an incentive to play with randoms and not their FC 750 gil isn't going to do it because on a legacy server with so much gil in the economy that is almost nothing. You could go out kill a sheep for wool and make 1k selling that wool, which takes a couple of seconds. They could make the reward be based on the economy of the server but that would seem like a pain to program.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 12-07-2013 at 05:51 AM.

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    Supply Demand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    They could make the reward be based on the economy of the server but that would seem like a pain to program.
    Or let the demand of the people needing tanks and the willingness of the tanks to supply their services set its own price through a "bid/offer" program.
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Disclaimer: OP does not speak for the entire tanking community.
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    Jack Nightshroud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randumo24 View Post
    I would have to agree that the bonus would be to cover repair costs. Tanking is not the most difficult role to play. It doesn't deserve more than everyone else.
    No role is difficult to play they are all easy. But people do like rolling dps more.
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  5. #65
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    Fineous Huxer
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    I speak for the tanking community, also the healing community and the DPS community as well, no melee dps I can't talk for that community...yet. If you are focusing on only one class like you ARE that class, you are doing it wrong. Keep in mind when my scholar hit 50 I simply put a full set of dark light on him because I did level tank first. Clearly dark light would be enough gear to tank any dunogeon tho, wouldn't you agree? There is almost no way I'm switching to tank for people that I don't know. You can complain and moan all day about how long the queue times are but then you also want to complain and moan when they try to get more people to switch over to tank so you can play your dps spec . You aren't going to get it both ways, sorry.
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  6. #66
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    welfare imo :P
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  7. #67
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    Some of you guys in here are talking like que times for dps are several hours and tanks will eventually run out. I find plenty to do while waiting in what I find to be 20-45 minute que times for dps, it's not a problem, I'll gladly wait and the minute it does become an issue I'll just level a tank, it's not rocket science or some exlusive club. I have pld at level 34 anyway and fully intend on taking it to 50 and gearing it.

    Lets look at it another way, imagine BLM is the most in demand job for WP, due to plenty of tanks/healers running it and BLM just being one of many DPS jobs randomly picked by DF. Should I start charging the other 3 people 50k a run? Wanna cap myth stones with a speed run Mr. tank? sure, but it'll cost ya 500k every week, how would you like that?

    Paying for tanks in an MMO is quite frankly one of the most stupid ideas I've ever heard in gaming, Not even the CoD crowd come up with ideas that silly and they take some beating I can tell ya.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    Lets look at it another way, imagine BLM is the most in demand job for WP, due to plenty of tanks/healers running it and BLM just being one of many DPS jobs randomly picked by DF. Should I start charging the other 3 people 50k a run? Wanna cap myth stones with a speed run Mr. tank? sure, but it'll cost ya 500k every week, how would you like that?
    That's exactly how it would work. If you want fast queues you have to incentivize the people that will make those times faster... It's not "rocket science"and its certainly not stupid. Stop insulting people.

    And enough with this 50k stuff, lol - like the OP said, gil is valued different where he is from, he talking about the equivalent of 7500 gil on a normal server.
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    Silva Redfield
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    I think it's sort of necessary to get more people to want to tank (which is always what is in demand), at this point, but I don't think a small amount of gil is going to be the selling point. Anyway, I'm a little behind on updates, is the extra tome reward part of the reward for queuing as a tank, or is that just the reward for doing Duty Roulette?
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  10. #70
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Just a thought - I have a bard with relic/DL/and a few myth pieces, and I have a PLD @50. Even with the 20-45 minute wait I still queue as the bard - not because it is better geared or even because I like the job more, but because of the way most tanks are treated in WP/AK. Sure, I could jump on PLD and get an insta-queue...so could anyone else who has a 50 tank, but the fact that so few do, even when they have the job leveled, speaks to perhaps the real reason there is still such a big tank shortage -- namely, the way they are treated. No amount of gil will change the way many in the community treat tanks - especially in endgame dungeons and even in some of the earlier ones. I'd rather not get '50k' gil than have to put up with some of the idiots who abuse tanks who make one mistake or lose aggro once to overzealous dps...and that's coming from a dps.
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