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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    Had this conversation. It had the illusion of content. Sorry, but you're gonna need to wake up and realize that months of grinding before you can even hit a raid boss =/= content.
    jesus man you really are stupid .... i said END GAME CONTENT

    leveling IS NOT END GAME CONTENT .. im gonna try to say this so an infant can understand ( forgive me my memory may be off in the exact number)

    day 1 of eq2 launch they had 5 or 6 workable T5 encounters that were a challenge to defeat that would keep guilds active threw the whole week all the way to 1st expansion DOF

    me comparing 1 hour of end game content to T5 end game content at launch of eq2 has NOTHING i repeat NOTHING to do with how long it took to level to max level
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    Last edited by rowdey1; 12-07-2013 at 03:19 AM.

  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdey1 View Post
    1 hour of end game content per week .. wanna guess how much eq2 had DAY 1??
    ya sure i can play your game , seriously borfin i have seen alot of your posts you are a very ignorant person. If you really dont think patches should contain content for everyone then that just proves you are nothing but a young silver spoon gamer thats not even worth responding to anymore
    Extreme mode primals... Isn't that "hardcore" content that drops ilevel 90 accessories for "progression"

    People seriously need to proform cranial-rectal separation.
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  3. #93
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    The weekly lockout with Coil is bad already, but a loot lock out for CT? The drops in CT aren't even the best so why the lockout?
    Why Coil lockout is bad? Because you want your full iLvl 90 set in one week?

    And CT are the second best armor/accesories in the game, they shouldn't be easier than getting crafted/tomes ilvl70 gear.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliph View Post
    Extreme mode primals... Isn't that "hardcore" content that drops ilevel 90 accessories for "progression"

    People seriously need to proform cranial-rectal separation.
    pretty sure extreme mode primals drop ilvl90 weapons ..... allegan weapons will be ilvl 95 so if you have relic +1 or turn 5 coil weapon then ...... no its not progression ......... be sure to wear gloves when you preform your separation
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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdey1 View Post
    pretty sure extremem mode primals drop ilvl90 weapons ..... allegan weapons will be ilvl 95 so if you have relic +1 or turn 5 coil weapon then ...... no its not progression ......... be sure to wear gloves when you preform your separation
    Think ya need to go check out the recent interviews, the weapons are for having completed all three, where the accessories drop from each fight.

    Your ignorance is astounding.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliph View Post
    Think ya need to go check out the recent interviews, the weapons are for having completed all three, where the accessories drop from each fight.

    Your ignorance is astounding.
    ok so you can get your 3rd set of ilvl 90 accessories ... neat

    you really dont think it would have been worth their time to just make them ilvl 95 ? im willing to bet also that the extreme primals will be tougher fights then coil 1 - 4
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    Oh that's another thing I forgot to mention.

    At least in XI, on top of having all that different content to do (and all of it being equally viable/desireable) you had merit points, or even just getting back safety EXP so you didn't level-down while doing all that content (not that I'm advocating a return to EXP loss - F that noise).


    All the EXP you earn in this game? Basically wasted. There's no merit point-like system yet, and the rates for Spirit Bonding are a complete joke (not to mention most SB gear is terrible, expensive or both and that the majority if stuff you'll be wearing most of the time is non-convertable anyway) so it all just serves to compound the endgame problem. Nevermind the horrors of queing up for the DF and having to wait because the servers are all full, as opposed to being able to travel to an open-world dungeon or instance and just go and do it. Why is Coil a 1 week lockout anyway? I mean hell, even if XI they've scaled back the lockouts from 72 hours to 24 for most events. Abyssea had a 24 hour lockout I believe but also had the workaround that so long as you left with at least 5 minutes of time on your visitor status you could just re-enter and use more stones.


    It boggles my mind how such a dated game got so many things right over what ought to be a newer and better game.
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    Op is so stupid. You can just quit now. If there is no loot lock, everyone get full lvl 80 gear for all their jobs very soon. Where crafter go? Where economy go? can you get 1 piece of i90 in coil every week? Or even every two week? Answer is no. I80 gear is in between i70 to i80. So they are suppose much harder to get than i70 gear but easier than i90 gear.
    1 week lock is perfect balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdey1 View Post
    jesus man you really are stupid .... i said END GAME CONTENT

    leveling IS NOT END GAME CONTENT .. im gonna try to say this so an infant can understand ( forgive me my memory may be off in the exact number)

    day 1 of eq2 launch they had 5 or 6 workable T5 encounters that were a challenge to defeat that would keep guilds active threw the whole week all the way to 1st expansion DOF

    me comparing 1 hour of end game content to T5 end game content at launch of eq2 has NOTHING i repeat NOTHING to do with how long it took to level to max level
    5 or 6 workable t5 encounters.

    Leveling is not endgame content, but apparently months of preparing for it is (we are comparing to EQ2 aren't we? let's go grind weeks upon weeks for craftables before we can even raid!)

    Hmm..

    - 3 Hardmode primals
    - More than 6 bosses in BC
    - Oh hey, WP/AK are content too, but we can disregard them since the raid content out-endgames EQ2 anyway.
    - Don't tell anyone, but CM/Prae is also endgame raiding content.

    Looks like SE has more endgame content to me.

    I repeat:

    You are adorable.
    It boggles my mind how such a dated game got so many things right over what ought to be a newer and better game.
    Those nostalgia goggles are pretty thick. You HAD to log in once a day for each boss or you fell behind. Current lockout system is way more schedule-friendly.
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    Last edited by Borfin; 12-07-2013 at 04:39 AM.

  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    The weekly lockout with Coil is bad already, but a loot lock out for CT? The drops in CT aren't even the best so why the lockout?

    This game is heading in a direction that many of us feared it might... full of limitations.
    Look at this video:

    http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/spe...ken/pvp_arena/

    Now come back to see your whinning again, you can go ahead and quit. As for me, I only want to play 2.1 more and more. I also want to laugh at those whinning this game is Monday game, at their impatience for first update. It is pretty evident that this game will only getting better and better.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 12-07-2013 at 06:05 AM.

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