CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[Borfin]

a bunch of fluff that basically means "yeah well we're getting bored and don't feel like there's enough content"

Don't try to tell me that the guild is quitting for any reason other than "I'm not getting what I want, and what I want is more loot/content". Because that's what it is.

You can try to be as eloquent as you want about it, but that's what your entire post boils down to.

It doesn't change the fact that this is the first major content patch and your FC is already getting ready to bail. Amazingly, incredibly fickle and unreliable. Laughable even, considering the game hasn't even been out for three months, they're already releasing a content patch and that isn't enough for you.

To put it another way, FCs/guilds/whatever like yours don't stick around anyway.

See ya.

Nothing of value will be lost.

(Try to use more layman's terms next time. Your post is needlessly drawn out and could be summarized in two sentences. And this is from someone who regularly bypasses character limits.)

[KairiSgheart]

In honesty, I much prefer this loot lockout than the 1.0 raid ring looting. Those that play it would know it could take months b4 a dark light body drop etc and most if time was green item. At least this loot lockout guarantees u loot each week, same to myth n coil, u are actually gurantees loot. Rather than 1.0 where u can spend months on farming with mist days netting u with nothing but green gears.

At least can spam content to have fun or help others n new players. Making friends and all. If they didn't had lockout, it do be farm finish within a couple if weeks for the ppl who spend many hours a day, then what? U do be complaining nothing do as got everything. Is only the minority that got this kind of time n complaining nothing do.

[Saidosha]

Don't try to tell me that the guild is quitting for any reason other than "I'm not getting what I want, and what I want is more loot/content". Because that's what it is.

It may not be a reason you like, but it is still a valid reason. But let's contest it a bit, shall we? What else should they be looking for? Friendship? If it is indeed a guild, then I would like assume some semblance of friendship is at play. One could also assume a certain degree of self-sacrifice in doing things you don't personally need for the sake of "team building" in the now. Yet, I can not and do not expect people to work for charity, and gear is how we're primarily paid in these games for our efforts. Lockout or not, the repetition and ennui is going to build and people will crave the next new thing.

People wanting to shoot down the next new thing before it's even out isn't good. If you can't see that, there's no further convincing I can offer in eloquence or effusion.

In honesty, I much prefer this loot lockout than the 1.0 raid ring looting.

I've said it in another thread, but favoring one poor loot system over another poor loot system really isn't a win for us players. Choosing the lesser of two evils rarely is.

[Sindele]

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So in your opinion they should continue paying 12-15 dollars a month for a game that is doing things contradictory to its stated objectives with system designs, waiting to see if someday it trickles out more content that actually interests them and does something for them, and spending the intervening weeks - months - years? - hanging around in hope? This is a game, and more importantly it's a business. Square-Enix is not my liege lord, defending my lands in exchange for my taxes and loyalty. They're offering a service. If that service isn't producing anything for me, I stop giving them money. Loyalty is admirable, but paying for and playing a game you're not enjoying isn't.

[Niko_Kishiko]

My friends are bored and a few I have talked to said that the Crystal Tower lockout will probably cause them to not come back and/or unsub. If anyone elses FC members list looks like this I feel for ya.

I could go to another FC and I might. Still thinking about it cause I suck at meeting new people. I like this game a lot but I am bummed about the CT lockout because I was going to spend time gearing my alts in CT. Even thought I might pick up some stuff for my main since I haven't seen a Coil drop in 4 weeks.

I wish they would have told us they were going to lock it out so I would have leveled jobs on alts and not one character. All my jobs are on one character and it sucks.

[WiseWolfHolo]

In honesty, I much prefer this loot lockout than the 1.0 raid ring looting. Those that play it would know it could take months b4 a dark light body drop etc and most if time was green item. At least this loot lockout guarantees u loot each week, same to myth n coil, u are actually gurantees loot. Rather than 1.0 where u can spend months on farming with mist days netting u with nothing but green gears.

Personally not really seeing much difference for me in terms of 1.0 drop rates as compared to this lockout, been to coil for 10 weeks, how much total bard stuff has dropped? Our survey says 2 items, earrings and choker. So from my standpoint I no longer care if there is a slim drop rate and you can spam it or a lockout with guaranteed drops because from where I stand it is basically the same thing.

[GinTama]

Good. 10chara

[Borfin]

WoW often goes eight, ten months without releasing content when a new expansion is coming out.

You think getting 2.1 after three months is bad? Try doing Dragon Soul

You will not mention that abomination of a raid in my presence.

[Deltara]

Remember when all the people complained about coil not letting people run multiple times with other groups of friends, just to help each other gear? So many people were like "Just lock us out of gear after our first run. I'd run this over and over, even if I couldn't get the gear I wanted... just cuz it's fun and I'm helping others and want to try this on my monk instead of being forced to heal."

Now that's what's going to happen and the people are angry that they got what they asked for. (Except you are only locked out after you actually get the piece you want)

Not to mention the fact that people are angry that SE is going backwards for this recommended dungeon level saying things like "What's the point of even doing CT? I have coil gear" and then turning around and raging about not being able to get lower iLevel gear faster.

Sorry, just hoping someone else is finding this as entertaining as I am. It's a game guys. Play for glory and the loot will follow.

[Mcshiggs]

Remember when all the people complained about coil not letting people run multiple times with other groups of friends, just to help each other gear? So many people were like "Just lock us out of gear after our first run. I'd run this over and over, even if I couldn't get the gear I wanted... just cuz it's fun and I'm helping others and want to try this on my monk instead of being forced to heal."

This is new whining, you can't bring up old whining into the new whining, you will confuse them, giving them another thing to whine about.