Why so much animosity toward Dragoons?

[killergerms]

Dragoons for life! Anyone who says coil drops only drg gear is wrong. Yes maybe for you, but goddammit I've done coil for over 2 months and only got 2 dragoon gear and 2 striking accessories. So it's honestly just bad rng. But I can say my dps is really good in coil I can crit almost 1300. I'm sorry a lot of you guys del with bad drgs. They look bad ass that's why new players swarm to it and it's a somewhat easy class. But I love playing my dragoon and could careless if someone doesn't want me in their party because it's just a game.
Ps. Avoiding aoes is easy but it takes practice and pray you don't lag

[yoshikwalla]

Dragoons on FFXIV are like Gladiators on AION, Elves on Mabinogi, and Death Knights on World of Warcraft. They attract the... special sections of the MMO community.

That said, my best friend is a DRG and I don't mind playing with them when they're not infuriatingly pulling mobs while I'm trying to mark them. I'll Shield Lob them over here in a few seconds, dammit! Always the Dragoons, never the rangers or the mages. I can't wrap my head around it. Is it just me? I think it's just me.

[yamface]

Dragoons on FFXIV are like Gladiators on AION, Elves on Mabinogi, and Death Knights on World of Warcraft. They attract the... special sections of the MMO community.

That said, my best friend is a DRG and I don't mind playing with them when they're not infuriatingly pulling mobs while I'm trying to mark them. I'll Shield Lob them over here in a few seconds, dammit! Always the Dragoons, never the rangers or the mages. I can't wrap my head around it.

Except dk's in wow were and always is a brokenly op class. Drg not so much at all.

I only hate dragoons because their coil loot rate is like 1000000000000000x more than anything else, and yet they still die.

[CalvatE]

I remember when I ran prae with another DRG that had a relic and some pieces of darklight, while back in that time I had my garuda weap and majority of my AF gear still.
We're at Ultima Weapon and I kept hearing some sound, and I'm like "the fuck is that"
That dragoon kept spamming ring of thorns.
I don't think he was using any rotation at all...
But I was so proud that I did better with someone with a relic.

I think most people can agree the sound is annoying, but then you have people who know it's annoying and spam it around major towns and then it causes a snowball effect of others to join in.

[yoshikwalla]

Except dk's in wow were and always is a brokenly op class. Drg not so much at all.

I only hate dragoons because their coil loot rate is like 1000000000000000x more than anything else, and yet they still die.

They all attract the "ermagherd this class looks so badass look at the cool armor im gonna make a dark lone wolf with amnesia and a mysterious past and name him Squaske Leonchiha" kind of players. ...Okay, now that I 'thunk it, Rogues fit the bill more than DK's do.

[Sindele]

Nothing to do with FF11 for me - Dragoon was my first job to 50 here not long after release, and my first relic. Unfortunately, the class is melee, pure DPS, and often put into fatal positions by its own class abilities; which ultimately leaves it in an unpleasant spot when you have to pick 2-4 DPS out of 5 DPS jobs, and that 'pure DPS' isn't high enough to beat classes that bring significantly more utility either..

[Tanama]

I only hate dragoons because their coil loot rate is like 1000000000000000x more than anything else, and yet they still die.

Myself and a few other dragoons have already expressed how little loot we have gotten from Coil so as he said, it's just bad RNG. And about Dragoons dyeing, you could say the same about bad monks to it's not only the bad dragoons.

Edit: About two months of Coil and this is what I have to show for it.

[Zumi]

Having all the classes leveled myself I find DRG to have the hardest rotation for about similar damage to everything else in the game. If you aren't skilled at the rotation you do way worse then say like a monk or a bard which has fairly easy rotation.

Harder rotation for DPS that is pretty much the same as everything else that has an easier rotation.

[Alkimi]

More so than any other job I think, you have to adjust your rotation constantly depending on what's currently happening and a lot of drgs just can't optimise themselves properly. Sure there's an ideal rotation of 24 steps or something, but this game has very few "tank and spank" fights where you can just spam that over and over.

[Gamemako]

I think FF11 has almost nothing to do with it, and the people the spike armor attracts are not necessarily worse than the awful conjurers you find all over the place. It's all about the weaknesses of the job, which have been stated here already:

• Weakest DPS in the game for most real situations, barely edging out the pure DPS ability of support-focused BRD
• Vulnerable to the magic attacks which constitute a larger portion of damage to DPS jobs at this time
• Abilities which cause undue risk (especially in combination -- B4B + Jump = bad times)
• Portion of DPS linked to interrupts which cannot be used on GCD in many encounters
• DPS severely hampered by opponent motion -- while MNK loses damage from the hit, DRG can't get buffs without hitting from the correct direction
• Support abilities are otherwise effectively useless (Slow affects few opponents of consequence, Stun is rarely available for utility, lolmantra)

Based on the other buffs going to MNK, I doubt DRG will be welcomed with open arms in 2.1, but it's a start compared to what they are now. They're just plain behind.