Lets face it.

[Davionx]

I've already seen 15+ people quit the game who were capable of getting to turn 5. This game is just too casual friendly and I fear if they don't nail PvP on the head there will be a mass exodus (but I guess that's every MMO launch)

There is no PvP. It's instanced set fights. You PvP guys really need to find a game with PvP in it cause this one never will.

[Hobo]

There is no PvP. It's instanced set fights. You PvP guys really need to find a game with PvP in it cause this one never will.

Producer himself said no successful MMORPG can go without PvP as it generally accounts for 20% of the player base. And yes instanced set fights is still "PvP" by definition... so I don't understand how you get off saying there is no PvP. We aren't asking for Aion style PvP.

[KoujiGeki]

Producer himself said no successful MMORPG can go without PvP as it generally accounts for 20% of the player base. And yes instanced set fights is still "PvP" by definition... so I don't understand how you get off saying there is no PvP. We aren't asking for Aion style PvP.

He obviously has never played 11 which no even plays the pvp and 11 has been going strong, so saying a mmo is only successful with pvp is a joke.