Crystal Tower and fears that it will bring out the worst out of people

[Raminax]

Isn't Crystal Tower only open for queuing if you have a full premade of 8 people? Assuming that's still the case, I'm hoping all these worrywarts will do their part and shame the idiots from their servers who end up in their groups. And assuming you don't... well, why are you complaining? Building a better community doesn't happen without work, chop chop.

[Lunavi]

Isn't Crystal Tower only open for queuing if you have a full premade of 8 people? Assuming that's still the case, I'm hoping all these worrywarts will do their part and shame the idiots from their servers who end up in their groups. And assuming you don't... well, why are you complaining? Building a better community doesn't happen without work, chop chop.

No it isn't. From what I have heard you can solo queue aswell.

[Freakiie]

Isn't Crystal Tower only open for queuing if you have a full premade of 8 people? Assuming that's still the case, I'm hoping all these worrywarts will do their part and shame the idiots from their servers who end up in their groups. And assuming you don't... well, why are you complaining? Building a better community doesn't happen without work, chop chop.

I generally read "up to 8 people". Also knowing how everything must be accessible to everyone I highly doubt SE would do something like forcing you into 8 mans.

Also, shame people on your server? ... Really? Yeah, people are totally gonna give a damn about that!

[Raminax]

Well, I suppose I might've misread, but I remember there being quite a fuss about queuing for Crystal Tower at least. Though I suppose it was mainly the big FCs wanting to bring 24 players from the same FC in the same run.

And yet another well, I seem to have had mostly positive experiences with people in XIV. Do the usual greetings and salutations and I get the entire group to do the same 99% of the time. Only three people out of hundreds of premade and DF groups stick out in my memory for being exceptionally wroth. Either karma is real or I'm amazingly good at blocking out all the angsty teenagers who just got to Nietzsche in Philosophy class.

[Sunarie]

Either karma is real or I'm amazingly good at blocking out all the angsty teenagers who just got to Nietzsche in Philosophy class.

I think it's more that people are more likely to come to the forums to say something negative than to say something positive (in general), so the forums tend to be more negative than the actual game. Or at least a combination of that and negative experiences being more prominent in the mind, so they seem more frequent. You're right though, the majority of groups I've ran with in game are polite, and even when wiping, will follow the dungeon through to the end with little complaining.

The fear here, is one in every 8 runs may have a bad member in regular dungeon runs (higher frequencies if you're running Titan pugs, or CM.. bad member being defined as highly impatient, derogatory, and overall impolite, not just people who don't talk). So, that's 1 our of every 24 people. CT is 24 people.. so just by having a bigger pool of people, you're likely to run into those jerks more often. In addition to that you're mixing the folks that want to watch cutscenes, or do speed runs, or have practiced everything and perfected it, or who are just running to run it and don't really care. None of these groups can make a full pre-made, so they don't have a choice in being mixed with others. A lot of those personalities clash. Usually they avoid grouping together (for the most part) by doing pre-made runs. That isn't an option yet.

I understand the concerns, and understand where people are coming from in that regard. It won't keep me from the content once it keeps out.. I'm still going to try it, and hopefully all the worry is for nothing and everything is perfect.

A lot of it will be fixed at some point in the future when they actually allow full pre-made groups.