Here is what I don't understand about the CT Lockout

[ImDingDing]

There are groups who can clean Coil T4 in just full DL + relic
If this is too difficult, you can always clean T4 easily with half melding ilv70 plus 1 or 2 myth gears (which will only take you 2 to 3 weeks after 2.1)
As long as Coil is lockout you won't need a 2nd top geared class and all rest content of the game is doable with the gears I mention above.
You can run CT as many as you want you just wont be able to get the full set in a week and call it a quit.
Why this will stop you enjoying the full content of the game if you can do 99% of it with any classes you want (except T5)?

[Luso]

can please anyone show the link saying theres a lockout in ct. ~~ im quite confused to this.

It's posted on the first page of the general board.

Thread here.

[Zantetsuken]

What about the other jobs that are in the game, and the other jobs to be added to the game. I want experience the games content on all the jobs, not just a couple... In other games you can at least have different specs for one character. With this game you can have 1 spec/job at endgame and maybe one slightly less, and a ton of other jobs that sit there rotting.

Does not sound like the "expansive armory system" that was boasted about arr to me...

Oh, it is...

But just not at the ilvl90 cap.

You can get all relics and DL for your other jobs without restriction. But hardcores that want to be on the bleeding edge with the best gear will be stuck on a grueling treadmill.

When the next level of gear is released (likely 2.2), the ilvl90 gear lockouts will be greatly eased and it will become as common as Darklight.

Welcome to FFXIV:ARR

Working as intended.

[ken00]

It's posted on the first page of the general board.

Thread here.

finally.. thank you fellow adventurer!

[EmSix]

There are groups who can clean Coil T4 in just full DL + relic
If this is too difficult, you can always clean T4 easily with half melding ilv70 plus 1 or 2 myth gears (which will only take you 2 to 3 weeks after 2.1)

and then there are people that can't. This is what CT was originally advertised to be: "Can't clear coil in Darklight? Don't worry, Crystal Tower gear will come out to make it easier for you!"

As long as Coil is lockout you won't need a 2nd top geared class and all rest content of the game is doable with the gears I mention above.
You can run CT as many as you want you just wont be able to get the full set in a week and call it a quit.
Why this will stop you enjoying the full content of the game if you can do 99% of it with any classes you want (except T5)?

What if I want to play other classes in Turn 5? It gets seriously, mind numbingly boring doing the exact same fight, every week, with no changes.
I would love to be able to do Turn 5, or any turn, as a different job, but I am prevented from doing so.

[Dano]

I know the damage control unit are out in full force here but try and at least understand our point-of-view here;



The problem we're encountering is;

•Do Turns 1-5 [Done]
•Do Crystal Tower for your weekly piece of gear

-Now what?


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do Myth dungeons for i90 gear of your choice? get through extreme primals for i90 weapon and accessories? do moogle to gear your alts with i80 weapons?

there are plenty of other venues to get gear.

[Shioban]

do Myth dungeons for i90 gear of your choice? get through extreme primals for i90 weapon and accessories? do moogle to gear your alts with i80 weapons?

there are plenty of other venues to get gear.

You've missed the point completely. Each avenue presents the same problem of a lock out to hault progression, a barrier if you will.

Currently no matter what avenue I persuse I cannot work to obtain the gear I need to attempt content like Turn 5.

As Emsix said it gets VERY dry doing the same job, simply because its the only one geared for the only content of that calibur in-game currently.

The idea of the Crystal Tower was to circumvent this to an extent, a stepping stone to helping aid you in beating Turn 5, and now it's just become another weekly lock-out, it's just a shame that's all really.

It's the overall gear, in terms of weapons we're sorted.


Perhaps my rose-tinted glasses hurt my eyes from playing other games where there was lots of unique gear that provided some form of effort to obtain and provided interesting choices instead of 'THIS IS THE BEST USE THIS'.

"Oh but you have a choice between Allagan or AF+1" /sigh

[ThePatriarch]

We consume content faster than it can be produced. Lockouts help tremendously in controlling the rate of consumption.

You can't possibly be serious.

[Dano]

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it's a reasonable barrier, when all contents always reward you with gear it's normal to have artificial barriers or do you prefer we go back to 1.0's drop rates with no barriers?

Point is, you can still gear one job to clear turn 5 or you can gear your other jobs down the line and still enjoy doing turn 5, its not like the content will be gone after 2.1, it's also a good idea to help new comers gear up for the next new set of contents.

In truth you don't really need full on i90 to clear turn 5, a few pieces here and there is sufficient (as long as you meet hp, acc and dps checks). If your concern is clearing content i don't see that being an issue.

shamless edit: this might be something to look into in terms of CT loot lockouts
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Full-Raid-Lock

according to translation EM primals have chests that drop i90 accessories
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...21-2.1-and-2.2

[Zantetsuken]

Perhaps my rose-tinted glasses hurt my eyes from playing other games where there was lots of unique gear that provided some form of effort to obtain and provided interesting choices instead of 'THIS IS THE BEST USE THIS'.

"Oh but you have a choice between Allagan or AF+1" /sigh

Yeah, horizontal progression is FAR better than the current one-track vertical progression. The lack of any real choices in armor is my biggest complaint about this game.