(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[RegentP]

Will we be getting more Pet when new Primal come out to trade in or add to, I'm not sure if you can answer this but a understanding on the topic would be nice. Leviathan coming out in 2.2, would be cool if we got as a pet, or companion, Maybe?

[Spellbinder]

Will we be getting more Pet when new Primal come out to trade in or add to, I'm not sure if you can answer this but a understanding on the topic would be nice. Leviathan coming out in 2.2, would be cool if we got as a pet, or companion, Maybe?

I would have to do some digging to find the quote, but to my knowledge there are plans to introduce new Egi alongside new primals. Although I doubt they will be readily available at the same time, I fear the introduction of new Egi will make clear what I personally find to be the key flaw in Summoner.

That flaw, in my opinion, is that we are not a class that focuses on pet actions, but rather on DoT damage. Again, this is just my opinion, but Titan-Egi and Ifrit-Egi are completely and utterly overshadowed by Garuda-Egi and the utility of Contagion because it is the only skill that compliments the focus of Summoner damage, which is our DoTs.

If they can't find a balance between the Egi and give incentive to use something other than Contagion, then it defeats the purpose of introducing new Egi, because they'll be ignored in favor of Garuda-Egi. It would be better to simply call us Garuda Tamers since that's the only Egi that is actually worthwhile by the time we hit level 50.

[Kevee]

Will we be getting more Pet when new Primal come out to trade in or add to, I'm not sure if you can answer this but a understanding on the topic would be nice. Leviathan coming out in 2.2, would be cool if we got as a pet, or companion, Maybe?

I would guess it's only going to be when the level cap raises.

Not fair to give only SMN more skills.

[Saiken]

I am of the same opinion with Kevee that SMN is in a good place right now, but there are a few things that I am worried about.

Same with Spellbinder, I am afraid that any additional pets that will be added to SMN will be underwhelming with the presence of Garuda-egi. Simply because it is, currently, the only pet that actually has any synergy with us, the summoners. However if, say, one of the new pets adds extra potency to our dots (most likely shiva, but could be any of them really), such as an additional 15-30 potency, then that one other pet would have use, but then might actually be the new go-to pet, instead of garuda. What I truly enjoyed about FFXI SMN was that there was a reason to use every single pet(if you were actually good and knew what would be the most beneficial pet ability to use each fight). Such as Garuda giving haste/blink/speed boost or Predator Claws, Shiva for her superior magic merit ability/sleepga/paralysis, and the list goes on.

I have a suggestion that might help with this. Keep the way ACN and SMN themselves perform, as a whole, the same. However an expansion of pet abilities should be made. What I mean is have a sort of hybrid between how SMN in FFXI works and how SMN in FFXIV works. Keep us as a dot-based class, but have some more supportive abilities from the pets(because that's what they are in ffxiv).

Some minor changes to abilities such as: Give garuda either a speed boost(that is limited in duration but works in combat, like say 10 seconds with a 30 second cd to all party members), a "blink" effect like in ffxi, or an evasion bonus to all party members; this would be instead of her knock back (which has caused more problems than benefits imo). Oh poor ifrit... he needs basically a complete overhaul. Instead of Radiant Shield instead it should be either a damage boost for 10-15seconds for the entire party(1min cd) or an attack that adds another dot(based on our magic potency of course, which all of his attacks should be as well...). Flaming Crush is fine... but maybe add a Defense/Vulnerability Down effect to all affected targets; the other party members would particularly enjoy these aspects of his abilities as they will add to their own dps as well, not just ours. His stun, please make it faster and on priority... like no matter what he will execute it as soon as you command him to use it so long as he is within range. Personally, I am fine with Titan, but maybe have an ability for AoE Stoneskin.

The for any other pets they would add to ffxiv smn, I just hope they give them something to be worthiwhile to use because, as Spellbinder said, if they don't bring something of use that will be of similar DPS as what Garuda does for us, then they will be useless and never used.

As for enkindle, All I want is to have the potency increased by 50 and the CD reduced to 3min(being similar to BLMs Convert as that is the primary time when BLMs use flare if they don't want to suffer dps loss).

Not fair to give only SMN more skills.

it's only unfair if the new pets are actually worth using, as I've said above. Otherwise they are just there for show and are put away in favor of garuda =\


(this all coming from relic drk/mythic smn from ffxi ^^