Tanks lose aggro when they take dmg?

[Splice]

this thread is full of win...

taking dmg does not affect your enmity
why are you doing flash on a single target for enmity generation?
someone was suggesting to spam riot blade for MP? wtf?
shield oath generates more enmity per halone combo than sword oath (the oath should not affect your OT)
as the MT you should be opening with fight-o-flight>shield lob>halone full combo+SW>repeat halone combo till dead, by the time the bugs are eaten in the middle I am through my first halone and by then hate is never an issue. the only thing that can mess up the start and give hate issues are when someone pulls hate (like if healer has regen up) so it runs around before the buggs get eaten. As long as bugs get eaten right away in middle this gives you enough time to secure hate.

[zdub303]

Sounds like you just deal more damage than the MT and are generating more threat than they are. You need to watch the threat meter (the little white bars underneath everyone's class icon in the party window) and make sure to weave in Riot Blade combos when you are getting close to taking agro.

[Leiron]

shield oath generates more enmity per halone combo than sword oath (the oath should not affect your OT)

False.
The enmity modifier is about 1.2.
The actual damage loss is about 25%.
It doesn't make up for the damage loss, ergo, Paladin in no Oath generates more agro.
WAR has the same isue.

[Kal-El]

shield oath generates more enmity per halone combo than sword oath (the oath should not affect your OT)
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I'm only disagreeing with this point. The enmity multiplier for Shield oath is equal or less than the damage loss.

Therefore when the OT does their RoH combo they will create the same enmity (not taking into account crits etc) BUT the benefit of Sword Oath's auto attacks actually outweigh the the enmity buff from Shield Oath. So it's possible that the OT will steal hate when using RoH.

I originally thought Shield Oath enmity was broken after I did some playing around but someone explained it to me on these forums.

To be honest you should be looking at the threat meter anyway. If you're close to stealing hate then chill for a sec, use Riot Blade, cast a stoneskin on the MT and let the MT build hate for a bit.

EDIT - Small example. Helping a friend in Castrum today and the OT PLD would steal hate from me on the last boss using Sword oath.

Said PLD had hoplite and Ifrit blade.

I have Myth / DL with relic +1.

Ended up just going Sword Oath to make things faster anyway.