DF Speedruns

[Exphryl]

I love speed Runs. I do them both on my White Mage and my Scholar (So healer is relatively irrelevant).

The only gripe I have about running DF (WP) Speed Runs is:

A) Tanks assuming they will speed run (When they are fair fair too undergeared for it)
B) Tanks assuming they will speed run with a not-optimal group (Two monks? Sure why not!)
C) Tanks that fail to avoid the ground mechanics of the various mobs (It can be tough enough healing you through 7-8 mobs, taking that much extra damage is a surefire way to wipe the group)
D) Basically I blame tanks for any failed speed run.

[joshdavis271]

I love speed Runs. I do them both on my White Mage and my Scholar (So healer is relatively irrelevant).

The only gripe I have about running DF (WP) Speed Runs is:

A) Tanks assuming they will speed run (When they are fair fair too undergeared for it)
B) Tanks assuming they will speed run with a not-optimal group (Two monks? Sure why not!)
C) Tanks that fail to avoid the ground mechanics of the various mobs (It can be tough enough healing you through 7-8 mobs, taking that much extra damage is a surefire way to wipe the group)
D) Basically I blame tanks for any failed speed run.

95% of the time it is the tanks fault, we have to stay on top of our game or the SR will fail. DF is perfect to train with, it teaches you better thret management,(all you need to know is flash/circle/riot combo) I pull 2 groups in DF to get myself used to handling more then 1 group

[Lord_Zlatan]

good post!

Check my lodestone. I am not ubergeared at all. I can do a semi-speed run (18 mins so far is my best time), but it all comes down to one thing: communication.

When the instance loads, if I don't see a BLM and BRD, no SR.

If I don't see a High end healer, no speed run.

If I see people completely outwear me, ill say "hey guys, ill push it as fast as I can. let me know if you want me to speed up or slow down".. I know DF can be a pain in the ass with certain people, but as a Tank it is incumbent on you to communicate what you can and cannot do and what your expectations for a run are. I love when there are no AoEs in the group and you get a "wtf why so slow" comment.

Just my 2 cents.

[Speeral]

[QUOTE=Lord_Zlatan;1626278]/snipQUOTE]

omg common sense. . . I am with your line of thinking 100%. I have an RL Friend who always tries to dictate everything but never gives us/our group a chance to settle into our runs. He doesn't ever look at our group make up or communicate anything. So we let him die until he learned that he needs to be aware of his group and talk to them.

You are right though in DF you have to gauge your run by the group your given in DF, not be unilateral.

[flamds1]

I love when there are no AoEs in the group and you get a "wtf why so slow" comment.

Just my 2 cents.

Had this a while back logged in to wp with two dps a mnk and drg who appeared to be family memembers. We got to the beetles on the stair and they started complaining about why it was so slow. Probably because the dps was crap and it took us 5 or 6 minutes to kill the birds and tonberries n the first two groups. If you're still killing the same mobs 3 or 4 minutes later, it's not a speed run.