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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    Gladiator=Paladin
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    Lancer=Dragoon
    Pugilist=Monk
    Archer=Ranger
    Conjurer=Black Mage
    Thaumaturge=White Mage

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    iunno if you win but I cant see Lancer = Dragoon following 14's lore. Since dragons are hardly ever mentioned aside from them fighting an endless battle with Ishgard or w/e. Would be kind of a stretch for all of a sudden out of no where people have found a way to capture/train dragons for personal use. Or wyverns w/e lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by wind View Post
    iunno if you win but I cant see Lancer = Dragoon following 14's lore. Since dragons are hardly ever mentioned aside from them fighting an endless battle with Ishgard or w/e. Would be kind of a stretch for all of a sudden out of no where people have found a way to capture/train dragons for personal use. Or wyverns w/e lol
    The dragoon archetype is Kain. No dragon necessary.
    Their armor typically has a dragon motif, but only in XI did they actually have a pet dragon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerris View Post
    The dragoon archetype is Kain. No dragon necessary.
    Their armor typically has a dragon motif, but only in XI did they actually have a pet dragon.
    Oddly. Kain could use Axes and Swords. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Oddly. Kain could use Axes and Swords. :P
    Which has what to do with dragons? Did you read the point I was answering?

    Dragoon in III only used spears.
    Cid Highwind only used spears.
    Freya only used spears.

    Precedent means little in this series, and probably works against your argument since the cases of dragoon characters wielding only spears outnumbers the cases of dragoon characters wielding multiple weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerris View Post
    Which has what to do with dragons? Did you read the point I was answering?

    Dragoon in III only used spears.
    Cid Highwind only used spears.
    Freya only used spears.

    Precedent means little in this series, and probably works against your argument since the cases of dragoon characters wielding only spears outnumbers the cases of dragoon characters wielding multiple weapons.
    Dragoon in III could use daggers and swords.
    Cid Highwind was a set character you had no control over his weapons or his job (Which while is described as dragoon by most people is never said in game as such)
    And Freya was using a Racial Weapon All the Burmecians used Spears.

    And no It doesnt.

    Dragoon in FFIII can use Daggers, swords and Spears.
    Dragoon in FFIV can use Swords, Axes, and Spears
    Dragoon in FFV can use all kinds of weapons
    Dragoon in FFT, FFTA, FFTA2, can use all kinds of weapons
    Dragoon in FFXI can use all kinds of weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Dragoon in III could use daggers and swords.
    Cid Highwind was a set character you had no control over his weapons or his job (Which while is described as dragoon by most people is never said in game as such)
    And Freya was using a Racial Weapon All the Burmecians used Spears.

    And no It doesnt.

    Dragoon in FFIII can use Daggers, swords and Spears.
    Dragoon in FFIV can use Swords, Axes, and Spears
    Dragoon in FFV can use all kinds of weapons
    Dragoon in FFT, FFTA, FFTA2, can use all kinds of weapons
    Dragoon in FFXI can use all kinds of weapons.
    Wrong:
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/924897-fi...iii/faqs/45997

    Only spears for Dragoons in FFIII.

    And:
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/562810-fi...y-v/faqs/21769

    Only spears, daggers, shields in FFV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Oddly. Kain could use Axes and Swords. :P
    This is different than an ancient single player RPG. Get over the fact that you are going to be locked in. It's going to happen and all your idea does is make the system stupidly complex. Changing weapons = changing classes. Also, assigning many different weapon types to one class or job completely cuts the uniqueness of any future classes or jobs.

    Wouldn't it be better to save weapons to future potential of new classes leading into jobs than trying to make them into an extension of your nostalgia towards previous installments in the series? Think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wind View Post
    iunno if you win but I cant see Lancer = Dragoon following 14's lore. Since dragons are hardly ever mentioned aside from them fighting an endless battle with Ishgard or w/e. Would be kind of a stretch for all of a sudden out of no where people have found a way to capture/train dragons for personal use. Or wyverns w/e lol
    There are multiple Dragoon references in quests that involve Owl's nest. Not only about dragoons but also about dragons...i wouldn't be surprised if those dragon-shaped crystals were meant to be a way of summoning dragons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wind View Post
    iunno if you win but I cant see Lancer = Dragoon following 14's lore. Since dragons are hardly ever mentioned aside from them fighting an endless battle with Ishgard or w/e. Would be kind of a stretch for all of a sudden out of no where people have found a way to capture/train dragons for personal use. Or wyverns w/e lol
    It's not clear from FF14's lore that Lancer = Dragoon.

    However, clearly there is a big dragon problem, hence people that specialize in fighting dragons.

    Somewhat less clearly, there is very likely a way to summon dragons. The dragons in the opening scene were likely a summon that got out of control, unless you believe that all those dragons showed up and beat the snot out of the invading Empire airship fleet "just because", and that only following that did Ishgard start to have dragon problems.
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