Concerns about the PvP and why it might not succeed, though I want it to very much!

[Felis]

well that's unfortunate, because during the beta test it just matched any 4 people together. So now you're telling us we have to wait for a tank for PvP when enmity is an irrelevant consideration in PvP gameplay? That's not to say that tanks won't be effective but PvP is not traditional gameplay so why make it require a traditional party setup?

Maybe the tank get an PvP ability, that force a player to target him until the effect run out?
We know in 2 weeks

[SirSaber]

Maybe you guys should just wait for more info / release of the WD?

Because saying you don't like this and that without ever have tested it (no beta doesn't count) is ...selfish.

[Wyvernheart]

Cut fresh meat out!
And like it has been said xi increased the range of melee to help with lag. Moves like provoking forced you to attack the tank even if you were not targeting them. I'm interested in how PvP in housing areas is going to work. Hope its not just 1v1 but its better then none at all. Think ill be spending a lot of time in these new area's. Can't wait for the next two weeks to pass.

Make "fresh meat" optional!

[viion]

ugh, pvp sounds more crap the more i hear about it, i am not looking forward to it, so will see how it is in video and how it turns out, not gunna get me hopes up.

[VisRalis]

Yes, that would be a potentially challenging team comp. dot the enemy and heal eachother? swiftcast rezzes? I think you're trying timply that 4 scholars would be a bad team comp but I think it would work just fine.

That'd be a Nightmare for a DD actually...

Focus on player and faeries will heal them. Aldio for shield.
All the while suffering from DoTs/debuffs.
Focus on Faerie, smite it, Scholar swiftcasts another at full health =.=
Hahahahaha....

A WHM could probably out heal the dots...
But no chance in hell the current Esuna (& GCD) is going to get red of all the dots...

[Kairgon]

Why facepalm?

Do you want to enter a random party and find yourself with 4 scholars? Just to name one.

I'm fine with whatever it give us as random, anything will be challenge. Since I'm PVP'er Hardcore. But making it 1 tank 1 healer 2 dps as solo.. Do you realized it would be another waiting duty finder to popped such as 15-30min just cause of few tank out there?(probably healer too, who know) That and, As it seem many final fantasy crowd isnt pvp'er so that probablygoing be thing worse for que. But like people saying I'll just see it in 2 week, Since afterall theyre saying that were getting different abilities from PVE one.

But that's how I feel about it.

[Piddles]

They probably just want you to be paired up with randoms of each role instead of just randomly throw in all classes together.

[Valen91]

In the Wolves’ Den you’re matched via the Duty Finder with the regular 4-person party setup (1 tank, 1 healer, 2 DPS). If you’re looking to mix it up, you can make your own party, and organize the setup as you like. Also anyone organizing their own party setup will be matched with a team doing likewise, and not a randomly organized party.

Just looking for a bit of clarification on this detail,

Within the bounds of the 4-person party setup, are friends queuing together (groups of 2 or 3) matched with randomly organised parties? or is this group of 2-3 regarded as an organised group?

[Noroi_Kisaragi]

Within the bounds of the 4-person party setup, are friends queuing together (groups of 2 or 3) matched with randomly organised parties? or is this group of 2-3 regarded as an organised group?

No. Just like the actual game, if you go into DF with an incomplete party, it forces you to use the premade party composition if 2dps 1tank 1healer.

What I wonder, is if you have a party of 4, and go in with 2dps 1tank 1healer will it still pit you against a premade?

[Valen91]

Yeah that's what I mean, if it operates in the same way that the DF does, say for example you're queuing with 1 tank, 2 DPS and it fills the missing healer (who is queuing solo), do they get matched up against a premade team (4 people from the same FC) or do they get put against any randomly organised party?