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  1. 11-30-2013 04:28 AM #1
    Danko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooshywooshy View Post
    Well, as there are no (and possibly never will be) full support roles I think our idea of "Support" and "DPS with good utility" coincide. They are not the best DPS but have great ability to support the party through a variety of skills, as opposed to say a Lancer who has no intentions of supporting anyone ever. lol
    Aside from slow, stuns, +10% piercing damage for party and +10% HP healed for party?

    There are no pure DPS classes. They all have support options.

    BRD is not a support job. It is not a hybrid. It is a DPS.

    The problem with BRD is not and never was its support options relative to its DPS being out of balance. The only issue with BRD DPS is its mobility being out of balance with other DPS during fights that are unreasonably difficult for melees to maintain up time.

    BRD is already one of, if not the weakest DPS class in the entire game. And it certainly is not the only one with strong support options.
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    Last edited by Danko; 11-30-2013 at 05:02 AM.
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  2. 11-30-2013 06:05 PM #2
    Mekhana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danko View Post
    Aside from slow, stuns
    Don't work in Coil at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danko View Post
    +10% piercing damage
    This debuff was made for the drg in mind, having a bard around is a bonus. (we do piercing damage fyi)
    +10% HP healed for party
    That's monk, a different job btw.
    BRD is already one of, if not the weakest DPS class in the entire game. And it certainly is not the only one with strong support options.
    "Support DRG."
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  3. 12-06-2013 08:12 AM #3
    Sylari
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    A question. Is the "bards lowest DPS in the game" comment regarding only normal play? How do songless bards stack up by comparison to their competition?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekhana View Post
    That's monk, a different job btw.
    Isn't Mantra a cross skill?
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  4. 12-06-2013 08:20 AM #4
    Viridiana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylari View Post
    Isn't Mantra a cross skill?
    It is, but only MNK gets the +10% version.
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  5. 12-06-2013 08:42 AM #5
    Allyrion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    It is, but only MNK gets the +10% version.
    lol this has been bothering me.
    It's 20% for monks and 5% for everyone else. 10% was the beta (cross class) version or something.
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  6. 12-06-2013 08:45 AM #6
    Viridiana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    lol this has been bothering me.
    It's 20% for monks and 5% for everyone else. 10% was the beta (cross class) version or something.
    Huh. . .shows how much attention I pay to MNK. Should really level that up. . .
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  7. 12-06-2013 08:47 AM #7
    Allyrion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Huh. . .shows how much attention I pay to MNK. Should really level that up. . .
    Not your fault. Everyone has been saying it for the past page!

    EDIT:
    My macro screams the tool tip every time I use it. So I enjoy spreading the knowledge.
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