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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    But it's the sellers who should be punished, not the buyers. Instead the sellers who have used their millions of gil to help fund their Coil runs are now being rewarded with a buffed up weapon.
    This is the first I've heard of Coil costing gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    This is the first I've heard of Coil costing gil.
    It doesn't. But great gear to get you through it until you get the Allagan drops does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    It doesn't. But great gear to get you through it until you get the Allagan drops does.
    Pretty sure Darklight and Relic+1 don't cost gil either.
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    Astral, Vanya etc. are better than Darklight with top tier materia (which also costs a lot of gil.)

    But clearly I've upset you Titan seller by having an opinion, sorry. You're always right and everyone else is wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribunus View Post
    And how does everyone get tomes? Farming WP, which is at the start of the end-game hardly reason for a relic+1 to be top tier or even close. Its also gated to slow down your consumption of content and keep you playing not because the item is ilvl90.



    Turns 1-4 can be done by a pug quite easily, turn 5 will likely be done by a pug eventually. The hardcore crowd hardly have exclusivity on the top tier when all you see all week is shouts for random groups, the only thing they do have is the chance to get there first and thats only because they put in the time for it.

    Also if you dont like the direction the game is going in best leave and save yourself some money, the producer has stated on numerous occasions he is drawing inspiration from games such as WoW and RIFT. And why not? They are very successful games that follow the same line of progression that FFXIV aims to do.
    Both WoW and Rift has different layers of difficulty. Progression there includes the raids and the last bits of story.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by permbanned View Post
    No, you're not being punished. People that are killing Twintania are being rewarded for their efforts. There's a difference.

    The relic quest is easy as hell and they should have just kept it the way it was in 1.0. Be happy that you have access to top tier weapons and armor with minimal effort.
    Considering everything is relative: Twintania rewards (=) relics punishment.

    Also, it is not fair to call these weapons relics in such a case.
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    He doesn't mind us conducting trials so close to his bazaar, so long as he's properly compensated... Yes, Portus, we pay him in sorcery-blasted bird flesh. - Cocobygo

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    If anything people were gifted in this situation. These aren't relics anymore, they don't fit the rarity of a "relic."

    The 1.0 quest was already borderline, but this is ridiculous now because everyone has them. Allagan weapons receiving the boost is the best thing that could have happened.

    They are AF weapons essentially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Astral, Vanya etc. are better than Darklight with top tier materia (which also costs a lot of gil.)

    But clearly I've upset you Titan seller by having an opinion, sorry. You're always right and everyone else is wrong
    It's not a matter of opinion that darklight and relic are already good enough to farm turns 1-4 for allagan gear while supplementing with myth purchases to gear up for turn 5. Nobody is surfing to victory on a wave of Titan-selling gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Both WoW and Rift has different layers of difficulty. Progression there includes the raids and the last bits of story.
    Which is exactly what we have here.
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    Welcome to the participation award generation.
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