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  1. #21
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    BlueMage's Avatar
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Aww, I was hoping there'd be i90 versions of all the Primal weapons. I like some of those skins.
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    Duke Burden
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    My concern for these types of things are how are they going to shift the stats around every time for multiple iLvl 80-90 armor and weapons. There's only so many combinations of stats that would make an item iLvl 80-90. This is already the case with Allagan and Myth AF armors to find "BiS".
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  3. #23
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    honestly, if you are pissed that new content is replacing something that you worked towards in old content, then why are you playing MMO's?
    They're pissed because they spent three weeks worth of points on something that is comparable to something that could possibly take a day to get (After you learn the fights, of course). They could have spent those points to get ilvl 90 equipment on the other hand that will still be best in slot in a lot of cases.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    They're pissed because they spent three weeks worth of points on something that is comparable to something that could possibly take a day to get (After you learn the fights, of course). They could have spent those points to get ilvl 90 equipment on the other hand that will still be best in slot in a lot of cases.
    How is it any different than Coil drops vs AF2?
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    Omega Flare
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    The new ilvl 90 weapons will be much harder to obtain since you have to kill titan HM and complete three EX primal battles whereas with relic + 1, you just have to kill titan HM and wait 3 weeks. You only need DL to beat titan HM but you'll probably need ilvl80 gears to beat EX primals. As usual, the better the gears the easier the fights will be. The super rich players will just pay their way to thru the EX primals whereas the majority of players will still go for relic + 1.
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  6. #26
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    Maisie Stark
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    I am very pissed at this because I could have spent my myth tomes on af+1...
    But isnt this a normal way for an MMO that you will get better gear in new content?

    I dont want to run 1, 2, 3 years with the same gear! Its crapy GW2 style were you get your endgame gear with reaching the max. lvl. --- boooring!

    I want to hunt new gear all time and want to have a goal to clear the end content and acutal content with new patches to get better gear, to raise my stats, to get better!
    Having relic +1 is a normal way to beat Coil and than with relic +1 i go to Primae extreme mode. And i bet people without minimum relic +1 wont find a extreme mode group!

    For me its the normal way, having the goal getting relic +1 and than the goal to beat Twintania. With Patch 2.1 i have a new goal, killing primae extreme modes and if its necessary to have at least relic +1 than i have it already! If i need a better weapon i will have the goal to get it.
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    Gruß Maisie Stark
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  7. #27
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    Don Katsu
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    What I'm getting at, is that maybe I shouldn't waste 900 myth tomes on relic +1 weapon when I can get those weapons, and spend the myth tomes on better armor...
    You want to get your best item available even if it's going to be replaced later. If you're entire party has a ilvl90 weapons and you're attacking with a level 80 weapon you're going to be a detriment to the party.
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  8. #28
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    Renzo Genji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realchucky View Post
    But isnt this a normal way for an MMO that you will get better gear in new content?

    I dont want to run 1, 2, 3 years with the same gear! Its crapy GW2 style were you get your endgame gear with reaching the max. lvl. --- boooring!

    I want to hunt new gear all time and want to have a goal to clear the end content and acutal content with new patches to get better gear, to raise my stats, to get better!
    Having relic +1 is a normal way to beat Coil and than with relic +1 i go to Primae extreme mode. And i bet people without minimum relic +1 wont find a extreme mode group!

    For me its the normal way, having the goal getting relic +1 and than the goal to beat Twintania. With Patch 2.1 i have a new goal, killing primae extreme modes and if its necessary to have at least relic +1 than i have it already! If i need a better weapon i will have the goal to get it.
    Its not like getting myth tomes is unlimited. I wouldnt have +1 my relic and invested in af+1. I +1 relic for 3 jobs. So yes its alot of myth tomes I have wasted.
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    How is it any different than Coil drops vs AF2?
    It's different because the weapons from beating all three Extreme modes is a guaranteed item. You can go through coil multiple times, like many have, and never see a drop you can use. Getting relic gear with mythology is a nice consolation prize and eliminates the RNG for gear. If Turn 5 was easy enough for pugs to beat, people would continue to spend their points on relic+1 because it is still a guaranteed item of the highest quality. The problem comes in when you only get one guaranteed item every two to three weeks and they introduce a new, possibly obtainable in a day item after everyone has already spent three weeks of their points on something of equal strength. It sets back anyone who choose to get relic+1 instead of relic gear first by three weeks.
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  10. #30
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    Einsof Zeb
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    Archer Lv 50
    Anyone who thinks they "wasted" myth by getting a relic+1 before this gets released is being just as silly as people who buy computers and then spend a lot of time lamenting the fact that several months from that point it won't be worth what it once was. Move on and look forward people. Somehow I think you'll be glad you have a +1 while you even try to get these new weapons.
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