Concerns about the PvP and why it might not succeed, though I want it to very much!

[Divinemight]

I'm the type that want to feel like i'm playing against other humans.

You must have never been harrassed over PvP before. The level of harrassment also accelerated to a degree and becames a cyber stalking. We all know Ballista is not a form of real PvP but rather a sport tounament; however you are still get these trolls. I dont want to imagine the level of harrassment from FF14's current one character system with a real PvP system

[Ronzeru]

You must have never been harrassed over PvP before. The level of harrassment also accelerated to a degree and becames a cyber stalking.

No. I'm the type that if something is annoying, I simply use the game's features they gave to us to combat it. Aka the ignore feature. I don't even IM the person to let them know i'm doing it, or go out of my way to tell anyone i'm doing it. And I 'rarely' have to ignore anyone unless they get really bad. And I have a long history of playing MMOs to boot.

[Divinemight]

No. I'm the type that if something is annoying, I simply use the game's features they gave to us to combat it.

You are being an idealist. There are types of harrassment that game tool such as blacklist cant stop. You obviously didnt pay attention to the examples I gave in previous posts. You dont even understand the feeling for being harrassed just because you are playing Ballista correctly. I was unable to stop the harrassment until I won the Ballista Royale for the server. Being harrassed since 4 months after Ballista installation to Ballsita Royale, this is not an enjoyable experience.

[Ronzeru]

You are being an idealist. There are types of harrassment that game tool such as blacklist cant stop. You obviously didnt pay attention to the examples I gave in previous posts.

Not a idealist. Just someone speaking from experience of seeing what happens. And 9/10, the person being attacked will sit there and go back and forth with a person. Thats usually the exact reason 'why' they get bullied or trolled. They give the attacker ammunition.. and never, 'ever' even bother to block them to begin with until they are red in the face, and all their friends force them to eventually do it. This is over ten years of seeing stuff like this happen in gaming.. and it's never changed.

[Divinemight]

Not a idealist. Just someone speaking from experience of seeing what happens. And 9/10, the person being attacked will sit there and go back and forth with a person.

Are you kidding me? You will get trolled even from playing Last of US on PS3 and worst kind will stalk you to every game you play. I had this guy that keep doing this just because I keep kill him with meele weapon. Can I assume that your PvP performance is not at level will get you trolled? I am not trying to offend you at all. Just asking.

[Ronzeru]

Are you kidding me? You will get trolled even from playing Last of US on PS3 and worst kind will stalk you to every game you play.

..... Exactly how many games do you get trolled in? I'm starting to think that if this is personal examples you are giving, that your luck is just really, 'really' bad. I've played the same game, for the same system, and that's never happened to me.

[Divinemight]

..... Exactly how many games do you get trolled in? I'm starting to think that if this is personal examples you are giving, that your luck is just really, 'really' bad. I've played the same game, for the same system, and that's never happened to me.

Too many to be list, but I can give you recent one:

WoW
Last of Us
FF11
Tera
RE Operation Racoon City

I dont think this is random luck thing, honestly. I never expect people taking this seriously over PS3 mutiplayer games either. It is shocking.

[Ronzeru]

And are you guys who are against it... just people who have been bullied and shoved around a lot? I'll admit, I never really experienced suffering being shoved around or bullied. And i'm a guy, so I tend to have fun in competitive game. Golden Eye, Halo, Call of Duty, WoW, LoL, Tekken, Street Fighter, BlazBlue, Guilty Gear. I guess in competitive games, i've never really been used to players who don't trash talk and easily get their feelings hurt.

[Pooky]

And are you guys who are against it... just people who have been bullied and shoved around a lot? I'll admit, I never really experienced suffering being shoved around or bullied. And i'm a guy, so I tend to have fun in competitive game. Golden Eye, Halo, Call of Duty, WoW, LoL, Tekken, Street Fighter, BlazBlue, Guilty Gear. I guess in competitive games, i've never really been used to players who don't trash talk and easily get their feelings hurt.

You keep making it worse for yourself after every post man. "If you are for the Fresh meats designation, you guys were bullied and shoved around"? Only guys can have fun in competitive games?

I would advise you just let it go.

[Ronzeru]

You keep making it worse for yourself after every post man. "If you are for the Fresh meats designation, you guys were bullied and shoved around"? Only guys can have fun in competitive games?

I would advise you just let it go.

Notice my question mark. I'm actually asking all of you who are totally against it if you are bullied or not. And to be honest.... yes. Its like a woman saying she wants to be in the NFL... going into it... and telling them that they can't be so rough because she's there. Then wanting the entire rough competitor spirit turned around, simply because she feels too delicate. The reason games have a lot of content, is so that players of different types and mind frames have options of what they can go do. If you aren't the competitive type, don't play PVP. Do PVE instead, being as thats more of your cup of tea.