Please adjust Tomestone crafting material requirements

[Ksenia]

In time I expect them to roll back to 3 per. It's more to do with who is willing to wait it out and who thinks they need the 9 tome gear now, now, now. I can wait.

[RhazeCain]

First off, I'll agree that the material requirements like 18 of the 125 tome items do seem excessive.

However, I'm not so sure that the proposed change will have the effect you want.
- Prices (value) of finished item goes down as supply increases. Profit per item shrinks with it most likely.
- As buyers fill all their slots, demand goes down.

On the other hand, people who would not have considered crafted items before now will do so since the prices are cheaper.

Which of these effects is greater? I won't pretend to know. But don't assume that change wouldn't just backfire completely.

[ImDingDing]

In time I expect them to roll back to 3 per. It's more to do with who is willing to wait it out and who thinks they need the 9 tome gear now, now, now. I can wait.

As people have to cap their myth every week and the grind will just bring them 800 to 1000 philo anyway. I dont see why SE will lower this to 3. The philo mats have become over supply on a lot servers now.

[Ksenia]

As people have to cap their myth every week and the grind will just bring them 800 to 1000 philo anyway. I dont see why SE will lower this to 3. The philo mats have become over supply on a lot servers now.

Philo mat's are not over supplied they are crazy stupid expensive and nobody can afford them. "Oh but only 25K-20K-15K each".
I need 54 Potash and 9 Animal fat to make a suit as a weaver, not including Jewelry. I don't buy one knowing I need that many to meet objective.

[Ryans]

Philo mat's are not over supplied they are crazy stupid expensive and nobody can afford them. "Oh but only 25K-20K-15K each".
I need 54 Potash and 9 Animal fat to make a suit as a weaver, not including Jewelry. I don't buy one knowing I need that many to meet objective.

You might not be able to afford them, but others can. If you don't want to farm the philosophy to make it, or have it made, yourself, then don't complain about the price tag.

[Skyhound]

You might not be able to afford them, but others can. If you don't want to farm the philosophy to make it, or have it made, yourself, then don't complain about the price tag.

The price of philo mats is a problem. Having trouble to afford materials for obsolete armor is idiotic. It only takes 10 -15 minutes to buy one philo mat, there is no reason that should cost 20k. It makes absolutely no business sense and kills the crafting classes more than anything since devoted raiders will just deal with DL gear to get Myth/Allagan and the upcoming CT gear.

[Ksenia]

You might not be able to afford them, but others can. If you don't want to farm the philosophy to make it, or have it made, yourself, then don't complain about the price tag.

Complain? I don't run dungeons. One star is fine by me.
Who can afford Philo Mats? People who run WP every day. They aren't buying them though. My reply was to 'over supplied' Philo. They aren't over supplied. They are out of range of the people you want to buy them. So don't 'complain' when they sit on the market board for 6 weeks and get undercut.

[Grundy]

Philo mat's are not over supplied they are crazy stupid expensive and nobody can afford them. "Oh but only 25K-20K-15K each".
I need 54 Potash and 9 Animal fat to make a suit as a weaver, not including Jewelry. I don't buy one knowing I need that many to meet objective.

This drives me nuts, you need 7 coke for a Darksteel Ingot. A Darksteel Ingot is 300K + each on Excalibur MW. You need 2 Darksteel Ingots (plus a bunch of Darksteel and Rosegold Nuggets) to make Heavy Darksteel Armour.

HQ Heavy Darksteel Armour on MW on Sunday when I checked was 330k

SayWhutNow?

[WHS]

This drives me nuts, you need 7 coke for a Darksteel Ingot. A Darksteel Ingot is 300K + each on Excalibur MW. You need 2 Darksteel Ingots (plus a bunch of Darksteel and Rosegold Nuggets) to make Heavy Darksteel Armour.

HQ Heavy Darksteel Armour on MW on Sunday when I checked was 330k

SayWhutNow?

Was the suit NQ vs the HQ version? Sometimes I see this on alot of philo mat items but it has been mostly the NQ run to the ground cheap and the HQ left being priced high still.

[Kyana]

Question: Did you read this?

We understand that the cost of materials for 2-star crafts is a bit high when it comes to their ingredients purchased with Allagan tomestones of philosophy. Therefore, we will make the necessary changes to recipes that use more than 1125 tomestones and scale them down a bit so all of the recipes will no longer use more than 1125 tomestones.

This means that all 2 star recipes will require the same ammount of tomestones (probably with v2.1).
That's great, although some items still require too much compared to darklight stuff, but it's a real improvement.

This drives me nuts, you need 7 coke for a Darksteel Ingot. A Darksteel Ingot is 300K + each on Excalibur MW. You need 2 Darksteel Ingots (plus a bunch of Darksteel and Rosegold Nuggets) to make Heavy Darksteel Armour.

Wrong aaaaand wrong.

A darksteel ingot requires 9 coke, not 7 coke.
Every piece of heavy darksteel gear requires 1 darksteel ingot. This means 1 for head/body, 1 for hands, 1 for legs/feet => 3 darksteel ingots => 3375 tomestones of philosophy for a whole set of heavy darklight gear, which requires, as I already said, the lowest ammount of tomestones for a complete set.