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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
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    I am not agressive at all. I am being totaly calm and my point are perfectly constructed. Its funny that your percept my phrasing as agressive when all I do is using the same "confontational" words choice as Kitru.

    My point is totaly valid, you don't know the person you are talking to on here. Do the same in the street, depending the person you're saying that to, you can be loled at, or you can also end up saying that to someone who will be violent and attack you. you don't know their history, you don't know what they do, here its the same.

    example: you go to a conference related to astrology, the professor here say anything you disagree with, you stand up and you say "I think your opinion is rubbish" I am sorry but you will sound like a rude person.

    Now you get up, you interupt the said professor and you say "I disagree with you" yes you interupted him without saying "sorry" (which is rude) but still you did not invalidate their point of view by insulting it. you just state that you disagree.

    The meaning of a forum like this one is to share and expose ideas, telling someone else who have good ideas that their ideas are rubbish is not being frank, its being rude. the whole "counter-arguments" thing can be applyed after.

    You don't need to be a fully qualified CPA to know that, its common sens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandora View Post
    I am not agressive at all. I am being totaly calm and my point are perfectly constructed. Its funny that your percept my phrasing as agressive when all I do is using the same "confontational" words choice as Kitru.
    You type about smaking people in the face for having a big mouth. That is aggressive writing even if you reamined "calm and cool" when composing it. A basic writing course should have taught you that. Those words would have a much higher chance for a violent outcome "in the streets" than calling someone's idea "rubbish." Your structure attacks the person, not the point being made by the person. At any rate, I've used enough of my daily posting limit on this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    At any rate, I've used enough of my daily posting limit on this discussion.
    Thank heavens, because for a CPA, your lack of reading comprehension worries me. Well, as long as you get the taxes right, we're good.

    PS I write this not to be mean, but as an example of what you are accusing Gandora of, when in fact, he only stated that many people are internet tough guys, but if you were to speak to them face to face, they would never speak in the fashion they do under complete anonymity. RUN ON SENTENCE FTMFW

    EDIT: I need to find that DRK as a tank thread, because two level 35 characters one knight and one dark knight, why is my DK not so tanky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Thank heavens, because for a CPA, your lack of reading comprehension worries me. Well, as long as you get the taxes right, we're good.
    There's more to account than taxes. Also, my reading comprehension is just fine. Gandora wants to interpret Kitru as rude. That is his opinion. I read Kitru's posts as being rather blunt, but not rude (aside from some back and from between Kitru and Gamemako). Neither Gandora or myself are going to come to a consensus over our own opinionated interpretations.

    PS I write this not to be mean, but as an example of what you are accusing Gandora of, when in fact, he only stated that many people are internet tough guys, but if you were to speak to them face to face, they would never speak in the fashion they do under complete anonymity. RUN ON SENTENCE FTMFW
    I agree there are many internet "tough guys". However, Kitru is not one. He/she is can be blunt. I can see where some may take issue with his/her writing style but rarely does Kitru go after the poster like most internet "tough guys".



    I'm one of the few that would like to see samurai tanks branching off the Lancer class. They could use yari and naginata style spears. Katanas were not the only weapons samurai used, even in FF games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    There's more to account than taxes. Also, my reading comprehension is just fine. Gandora wants to interpret Kitru as rude. That is his opinion. I read Kitru's posts as being rather blunt, but not rude (aside from some back and from between Kitru and Gamemako). Neither Gandora or myself are going to come to a consensus over our own opinionated interpretations.



    I agree there are many internet "tough guys". However, Kitru is not one. He/she is can be blunt. I can see where some may take issue with his/her writing style but rarely does Kitru go after the poster like most internet "tough guys".
    Oh I know, but you are taking Gandora's words and twisting them to your benefit. I have seen some comments by Kitru as being a line next to rude, if not just stepping over the line. Even if Kitru is being frank, s/he can still be rude. Being rude and frank are two separate things.

    I am ok with Kitru, only because Kitru has walls of text. Sometimes there is stuff I agree with, sometimes not. But it's better than reading most forum posts on here.

    In case anyone is wondering, I am rude btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    I'm one of the few that would like to see samurai tanks branching off the Lancer class. They could use yari and naginata style spears. Katanas were not the only weapons samurai used, even in FF games.
    If we wanted to get super technical, thf and ninja should come from botanist. lol. I wouldn't mind it either, but it would be weird since katanas are the soul of the samurai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    If we wanted to get super technical, thf and ninja should come from botanist. lol. I wouldn't mind it either, but it would be weird since katanas are the soul of the samurai.
    Theif and ninja from botanist? Interesting. What's your reasoning behind that? Some of the FF games have the core mechanic of the Samurai drawing out the weapon's soul for an affect (in tactics, it could break the sword). I'd just like to see that aspect (sans weapon breaking) applied to the naginata/yuri style weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    Theif and ninja from botanist? Interesting. What's your reasoning behind that? Some of the FF games have the core mechanic of the Samurai drawing out the weapon's soul for an affect (in tactics, it could break the sword). I'd just like to see that aspect (sans weapon breaking) applied to the naginata/yuri style weapons.
    Thieves are a stretch, but typically I would imagine them to be peasants/farmers that were unable to provide enough for themselves and having to resort to taking from others. Ninjas were actually farmer's before they were ninjas, which is why some of their weapons were actually farming tools.

    We have MNKs busting out swordslashes and dragoons using final heaven, so at this point anything could go in regards to your weapon soul idea though.
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    Kitru is pretty often abrasive and argues in a obstinate and *extremely* mean-spirited way. She uses a lot of rhetoric that comes off as a personal attack. She uses a lot of rhetoric that makes her seem correct to people who don't think independantly, but most of what she is arguing is pretty much pure opinion, or based on some equation that is wildly assumptive.

    It is my opinion that she is poisonous to this environment of a pleasant exchange of ideas. This isn't a job, the only thing at stake here is internet epeen. It sucks when someone tries to make a fun thread about cool ideas for something and then another comes in and takes a proverbial dump on everyone's good time with *'ed up, confrontational, mean-spirited, opine-as-fact rhetoric.

    The only reason to use that sort of rhetoric is when one is unsure of the facts behind one's own opinion; it is used as a preemptive defense mechanism to prevent people from fighting back. Regardless of whether they are weak or strong of will, it muddles the conversation by triggering emotion on the negative side of the spectrum. Operating in that manner is "kinda sad," and it makes people here to have a fun read feel like this community is full of hardcore only a-holes that only see the bad or negative in everything.

    Obviously Kitru and those like her will not change their ways, because my opinion is certainly not enough incentive for them to act like I think they should, especially if they have been incentivized to act how they are acting for however long they have been acting so. Which is unfortunate because I have seen quite a few interesting and intelligent things come from Kitru, but they were almost always surrounded by insults, focusing on the OP's creativity or cognitive ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
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    Man you make me wish I could shake your hand, still receive all my praises.

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    Did it matter how they expressed how they wanted to leave? Not in the slightest.
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    No. The reaction would not be the same. Person B clearly stated why they did not like the place, whereas person A just went off with no reasoning. I'd be more interested in WHY person A said what they said, not how they said it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Typing the same way as Kitru to prove (s)he's rude. Smart.
    Not when you do it to prove a point.
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