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  1. #461
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    Sabi Verdantes
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    My main job is DRG, our first twintania kill while on DRG I passed on the allagan DRG spear and gave it to someones off job because relic+1 was alot better at the time. Now the allagan will no doubt be better.

    Might not see it drop again now for months with RNG and only an 11% chance of dropping per week. FML
    I did the same, but the group insisted that i took it anyway. Almost messed that up LOL.

    No worries though drg bro. Drg loot is 80%.
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  2. #462
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    Pompey Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabi View Post
    I did the same, but the group insisted that i took it anyway. Almost messed that up LOL.

    No worries though drg bro. Drg loot is 80%.
    Haha yeah apparently. But in the 3 months or whatever of coil, I have only seen 4 different drg drops (5 including spear) my group seems to get tank loot all the time, both tanks in my group are almost full i90 and I have got 5 tank drops as tank is my off class,

    ive got more tank drops than drg drops atm with me being 3rd priority on tank loot and first priority on drg loot lol wtf.
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  3. #463
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    Rustyhagun's Avatar
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    Usagi Yojimbo
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    I believe people are not seeing the reasoning behind patch 2.1. As it should be looked at, as the proper launch of the game. Things will now be how they should have been from launch.

    The game is adjusting itself for things to come. lvl cap, higher tier Coil and Crystal.
    Level 50 is not true end game, as that will be when the level cap of our character progress to lvl99. Then things will get interesting, as Yoshi, will start to think of end game character customization/development, close to what merits where in FFXI.

    People need to think of 2.1 as the proper way FFXIV ARR should have launched, and forgive Yoshi & Team for not being able to give them this experience from the start.

    2.1 an onward will have the proper, correct order, for related progression. Obviously the devs are thinking ahead and know what is coming, we do not. Let them do what they need to do to put the game back in its proper flow & balance.
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  4. #464
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    Vindicate Doomcaller
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimagasa View Post
    Even if they make the Allagan BLM shield i95 and drop somwhere it's still a slap in the face to require two drops to equal other classes who only need one. They really need to rethink how they handle offhands.
    Honestly I wouldnt mind having 2 pieces to farm, PLD also have 2 pieces to farm, its just a bit uncommon that a blackmage sticks with a 1hand sceptre, its not what we see in videos and whatsoever.
    But it would make me mad if they add it with a patch into the game, which results in additional BC farming (we are doing it anyway but still) and we could have already gotten the shield if it was implemented earlier.
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  5. #465
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    Ryel's Avatar
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyhagun View Post
    2.1 an onward will have the proper, correct order, for related progression. Obviously the devs are thinking ahead and know what is coming, we do not. Let them do what they need to do to put the game back in its proper flow & balance.
    Actually... this as stated is incorrect.

    If the update schedule as implied is correct then it will go as follows

    2.1: Crystal Tower (which was meant to be a precursor to BC)

    2.2: Bahamut's Coil part 2

    2.3: Crystal Tower Part 2

    Unless their plans for the next tier of Crystal Tower are for us to have completed the second portion of coil first then there's a very real chance we'll be stuck in reverse progression.

    (This is all subject to future announcements and contains massive amounts of speculation based on current information given)
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  6. #466
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    Danira Sunspear
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    My main job is DRG, our first twintania kill while on DRG I passed on the allagan DRG spear and gave it to someones off job because relic+1 was alot better at the time. Now the allagan will no doubt be better.

    Might not see it drop again now for months with RNG and only an 11% chance of dropping per week. FML
    Ouch /wrist

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    It is a good move.
    This is a bad move on the devs part. Reason being if the hardest content currently in the game should NOT be on par with the easy to get myth set. Those that want the coil gear should go and get it, those that dont, dont have to but to make the coil and myth ilvl 90 set almost identical isnt right either. Some players in this thread have no intention as they said to run coil so I ask why do you need or worry about how good coil gear is compared to myth set? There should be gear that those players who wish to strive for be a tier above all myth gear ( and I dont mean in just looks). Players work hard to learn the strats to defeat the hardest dungeon in the game and the only way they stand out is by looks, that isnt right either. The myth set or af +1 set should be used as a stepping stone till players get allagan and the allagan gear should rightfully be a step above not on par.
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  8. #468
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    Sayura_'s Avatar
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    Sayura Ava
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Players work hard to learn the strats to defeat the hardest dungeon in the game and the only way they stand out is by looks, that isnt right either. The myth set or af +1 set should be used as a stepping stone till players get allagan and the allagan gear should rightfully be a step above not on par.
    I've worked hard for 3 months with a pug group of people from different guilds. We taught ourselves the strats and never missed a week.

    I've gotten 1 drop as a WHM.. are you saying I don't work hard? The only way I'm progressing my character is by the myth system because of coils drop rates. This SHOULD be equal unless they implement a coils token system.
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  9. #469
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    Usagi Yojimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    Actually... this as stated is incorrect.

    If the update schedule as implied is correct then it will go as follows

    2.1: Crystal Tower (which was meant to be a precursor to BC)

    2.2: Bahamut's Coil part 2

    2.3: Crystal Tower Part 2

    Unless their plans for the next tier of Crystal Tower are for us to have completed the second portion of coil first then there's a very real chance we'll be stuck in reverse progression.

    (This is all subject to future announcements and contains massive amounts of speculation based on current information given)
    I did say 2.1 and onward. You are stating the same thing Im trying to get across. order of progression, according to the devs plans. 2.1 is where the devs wanted the game from launch, they just didnt have the time to complete and adjust 2.1 content, without having to push back the launch date 3-4 months. That is all Im trying to say.
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  10. #470
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyhagun View Post
    I did say 2.1 and onward. You are stating the same thing Im trying to get across. order of progression, according to the devs plans. 2.1 is where the devs wanted the game from launch. That is all Im trying to say.
    I agree 2.1 is where we are supposed to be from launch, I'm just saying it stands to reason that if Crystal Tower was in at launch then 2.1 would have been Bahamut's Coil part 2 and thus we would be progressing naturally.

    However because 2.1 is essentially a back-step this will not be the case. (unless we are informed otherwise)

    2.1 still will put us behind a tier like i said unless 2.2 is BOTH Coil part 2 and Crystal tower part 2 and the intention is to go

    Crystal tower -> Bahamut's Coil -> Crystal Tower 2 -> Bahamut's Coil 2

    see what i mean?
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    Last edited by Ryel; 11-27-2013 at 01:43 AM.

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