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  1. #391
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    Dano's Avatar
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze View Post
    I didn't mention knowing your class because that's a given, you could know all about it and still get destroyed because you have no idea how the mechanics of a fight works. End of the day, know the fight, have gear for it, communication. You're still fighting a scripted fight where you know exactly what's coming every single time. So no, I will never consider PVE skill based, to me it's more know your role and the fight. But if that's what your definition of skill is, I won't argue it.
    so the part about actually executing the plan doesn't involve any skill?
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  2. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    They were probably joking, we have offered to sell coil runs before in wineport for millions just as a joke.

    Seriously what if the guy getting carried parks a conflag on half the group? Gets targeted for a divebomb and throws Twintania into the group? Hugs another party member on twisters and plants it on them? It's not a carry if you need the guy buying the run to actually know and do things. I'm going to need video evidence of a carry before i believe this can be done
    You would just have the guy die in the beginning and run it with 7. If you can down twintania with 7 you can effectively sell a kill. Now... how many people are gonna buy a chance at loot? I can't imagine many. Titan is only being sold as its a guaranteed relic.
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  3. #393
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    Yeah I don't believe it, if it is even possible is just one factor. It requires someone to sit out of their regular turn 5 group for the week and I don't think everyone has their allagan weapons yet, and someone to pay the obscene price for a small chance at a weapon.
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  4. #394
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    Actually, we're waiting on dev confirmation if the gear is being increased.
    Before someone comes around and says "but they already did confirm it, see this post", I too will link to said post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    According to the stream, Yoshida did in fact mention this upgrade to item level 95 was to be for Allagan weapons only due to the difficulty of turn 5, whereas the text on the Japanese and English Q&A post indicated equipment in general. Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure.
    "Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure". That to me sounds like "we think it's only weapons but until we ask we're not entirely sure", it's a farcry from knowing for certain it is only weapons that are getting the increase.

    Also to the guy that keeps saying that pve doesn't require skill, as the person above me posted execution of said strat on a boss with a lot of mechanics does infact require a great deal of skill. If nothing else does to you then execution is where you are wrong, it's the same thing as execution for bringing down a skilled team in pvp, if you can execute a strat as a team to outsmart the other team then that requires skill. There's more types of skill than you seem to think there are and even with fights having a set rotation it doesn't mean they don't require skill to overcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by zdub303 View Post
    You would just have the guy die in the beginning and run it with 7. If you can down twintania with 7 you can effectively sell a kill. Now... how many people are gonna buy a chance at loot? I can't imagine many. Titan is only being sold as its a guaranteed relic.
    Problem with that though is unless you have extreme rng you will not get past conflags if the 8th person dies off the bat or even does terrible dps. The enrage is hard enough to meet even with good dps, however there's just too many mechanics in the fight(snakes/bird/conflag) that are very strict dps checks and without that 8th actually contributing a great deal those checks will not be gotten past. Now if what you're saying is a tank could be replaced with another dps then even then you're looking at a dps that still has to contribute atleast as much dmg as what the 2nd tank was doing because again all the mechanics I listed.

    But again as you say you need extreme luck to even have a chance at the weapon in the first place if it does drop. People would be looking at paying millions for extreme conflag rng and to play their character well enough to contribute to then have to bank on chest rng. Now to me that just sounds like too much rng and a waste of millions of gil for 5 ilvls on a weapon that will most likely get replaced by relic +2 or something easy in 2.2.
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    Last edited by Pellegri; 11-25-2013 at 11:50 AM.

  5. #395
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    Problem with that though is unless you have extreme rng you will not get past conflags if the 8th person dies off the bat or even does terrible dps. The enrage is hard enough to meet even with good dps, however there's just too many mechanics in the fight(snakes/bird/conflag) that are very strict dps checks and without that 8th actually contributing a great deal those checks will not be gotten past. Now if what you're saying is a tank could be replaced with another dps then even then you're looking at a dps that still has to contribute atleast as much dmg as what the 2nd tank was doing because again all the mechanics I listed.
    With full i90 and a few i95 weapons plus enough skill and familiarity I do believe you could make it past conflags with only 7.
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  6. #396
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    It's theory crafting if it's possible, I am not comfortable saying it isn't possible but I'd like to see a video of it being done before saying it is. It's something that is easily impressive enough to warrant a video
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  7. #397
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    if everyone in the party has i95 weapons and full i90 gear and has T5 on farm status i can see it being able to do with 7, but honestly by the time that happens 2.2 would be on the horizon and new gear will most likely outclass the allagan weapons or myth armor, T5 will be nerfed too. so I don't really see the point in selling T5 runs.
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  8. #398
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    Sugizo Lunasea
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    About the rename of in-game char., When the begining of FFXIV ARR Beta phase 3, there are unclear instruction to make me(some player) to change the char. name, I would like to suggest to give us a rename chance for free or by fee. Please follow with interest.
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    JP - Aegas

  9. #399
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    Thalaw Tmaze
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    Don't Know if was asked, but at the beginning of everything, Did Yoshi not say that Relic was suppose to be the best weapon in the game at ALL times? So are they going to up the relic +1 to 95 or change the stats on it at all?
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  10. #400
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    I haven't read much about you guys have been talking about but in my opinion, if they're going to buff the weapons to 95, that's fine but they should leave Allagan armor at 90. The whole purpose of Myth AF was for casuals to be able to get high item level armor by means of casually farming mythology points when they can. People that spam Binding Coils should be compensated by having weapons that are stronger than others for their effort and dedication.
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