Concern with Pc Players and Console Players

[zdub303]

I think it is perfectly reasonable for a group of players to require voice chat for their pug. If you have absolutely no access to voice chat, then you shouldn't expect to get in that pug.

Before my static came together, we we're pugging 1-3 people in coil every week. We even tried a few people who didn't have voice chat, and it was awful. It was always the same story everytime. "I don't need voice i've done every fight up until turn 5, I know them all" *player dies within minutes of each fight* "I'm lagging soooooooo bad" - yeah right... suuuuuure.

We've had 2 summoners we've pugged for turn 4 with no voice chat. Both times we tell them don't attack the knight... phase 2 they're dead with 2 seconds from... can you guess it?

Yeah, no more... We've refused to take people who can't manage to get voice chat. If you have absolutely no access to voice chat at all, find access or don't run with those pugs.

[storm]

I mentioned this would be a problem back in beta for that very reason. As content gets more difficult you're gonna see a divide occur between people who can use voice chat and people who can't, mmos have been around long enough for chat programs to have become an established norm. It was easy to see this was going to be an issue with a cross-platform mmo before it even went live.

I got attacked on the beta forums for pointing it out. Mostly I suspect becuase ps3 users get angry and anxious when you point to any of their disadvantages because they get secretly or at least subconsciously nervous that se is gonna just up one day think oh yeah this was a bad idea, this forum poster is right! And then stop ps3 support.

[Ronyx]

However Warthain it isn't right for Console gamers to figure out a solution the goal of SE was to make the solution to prevent this, it isn't fair nor right, yes coordinating is easier however if FFXIV REQUIRED voice to win/beat the dungeons/turns/other places etc, they would have added the voice-chat in-game.

But they didn't, I see your point but I don't see how this will help console players, even the ps4 will not be allowed mumble or 3rd party but yet they can talk to 8 people on voice chat, it seems silly to me so we have ps4 members on that, and pc on mumble, I wish Square would allow the voice feature in parties only or something because otherwise this may get even worse.

Voice is not required. In other games the add their own voice chats but FFXIV, dont need one and will never have one.

[firepixiedarien]

Because you shouldn't play MMO on consoles from the beginning.

Square Enix is still the only major commercial company to have 2 cross-platform MMOs.

The American-based giant Activision-Blizzard can't even manage to make their single MMO cross-platform.

[kaidennightshade]

"im sure you have a pc somewhere"
If we had a pc why play it on the console to begin with?

I have a console i like my big tv. As for ps4 they have a psn voice chat for 8 people exclusive to ps4s sony why add other voice apps? Theyd lose money bc ffxiv doesnt require + so these other apps wouldnt either.

If this is the only game i play they make no $

For people that are not on the recieving end try to put yourself in others shoes. Also high internet speeds are not available everywhere imagine being kicked for no voice. Imagine you unable to do coils because you are a console player.

Now you need to see how hurtful it is. We all want to get geared for endgame. Not all ps3 players are bad nor pc.. this requirement players set needs to go because its discriminating a gm has told me file it under harassment. So now that thats occuring i shouldnt have to report a player for doing this most of us are all adults. Why cant pc players just accept we want helped so we can help.

[kaidennightshade]

Sorry about some typos on my post... I am on my android to post. Lol.

[Gabanisu]

Ya, basically, you can pretty much run any dungeon with just a little bit of typing, watching, and learning. Marking... and a couple deaths, and viola.

No need for much more coordination, right?

Just TYPE! I run most dungeons correctly first try... Or at least one death then can learn, yeah? No? IDK.

[raelgun]

Square Enix is still the only major commercial company to have 2 cross-platform MMOs.

The American-based giant Activision-Blizzard can't even manage to make their single MMO cross-platform.

because in an interview, they said they didnt want wow to be on console due to their limitations, and i agree, FF14 is much easier then wow because it needs to cater to console players, it has far less theory crafting needed to maximise the specs in this game. its not a case of cant, its a case of wont

[MieyCyruuuus]

Do people that refuse to use VC just expect to be carried, or just never been to twintania?

[Sixmp]

Do people that refuse to use VC just expect to be carried, or just never been to twintania?

If you need the extra help of coms who is carrying who?

Once you know a fight you do not need coms, therefore not using coms will make it take a little longer to learn a fight, sometimes. IF at all.
Unless of course you are stating that FFXIV content is suddenly the hardest mmo ever made?