Are we getting a Vote Kick on 2.1?

[Zaiken]

The way they said is somewhat confusing. They say it will be implemented, but you can only vote when the person is DC, or AFK? Or it is everyone can vote and kick a player now?

I hope the Vote Kick is never in place though, there is so much abused that do it more harm then good. Like kicking people for watching Cut Scence, being a bit undergear, kicking people until they get a People with Relic, FC or Friends Que up and kicking people right when boss drop items, etc. or just being an ass.

[coffeeking]

kicking would be awful...just let the game kick any player afk or something like that...

[Haibel]

Q31: Will a kick feature be implemented to the Duty Finder?

A31: We will be adding this in patch 2.1. It will be a vote kick-style system and their will be limitations when using it.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1587423

[Zaiken]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1587423

Anyone know what the limitation is for it yet? Or clarification of how it work?

[Haibel]

Anyone know what the limitation is for it yet? Or clarification of how it work?

most likely a minimum time in the dungeon needs to be reached. like 5 miniutes in you can vote kick then, and probably
if the person getting kicked has contributed to a boss defeat they won't be able to be kicked. I wouldn't be shocked to see
if a person plays the dungeon at all they can't be kicked unless a certain time passes without activity.

I just hope they put a least a 7 minute penality on kicked people so they can't reenter.

[Reiterpallasch]

I for one can't wait for the vote to kick feature, just in case any of the "vote kick will be abused!" doomsayers get into a group with me. You know, so I can kick them

Seriously though, it's a much needed feature, and if they implement it properly it won't (and can't) be abused.

[CUTS3R]

I for one can't wait for the vote to kick feature

Seriously though, it's a much needed feature, and if they implement it properly it won't (and can't) be abused.

Totally agreed, the kick option cant come soon enough.

[Billie21]

I thought there already was a way to kick a player that DC? Except right now, only team leader can do it (after XX seconds, usually not enough to allow the person who got DC to come back, if they got the "you're already online, come back later" error when trying to log back in).

[Reiterpallasch]

An oxymoron, such a feature will ALWAYS be abused because of the toxic community this game has developed on NA/EU servers.

Well, ok, it can be abused, but it will take a significant amount of effort to do so if they implement it properly. Lets take a page out of Blizzards book:

• In all content, it's a "majority wins" system. However, there is a condition to this: If the group is a premade, they can NOT vote kick somebody by themselves. If 3 guildies queue for a 5 man dungeon and they all vote kick (3 of 5, so majority), it will NOT kick the person unless the 4th vote also says kick. This applies 25 man LFR content as well.

• In LFR, 5 unique people outside of a premade all need to first choose the option to kick before the vote will even appear to the rest of the group. The same rule applies to premades, as they themselves can NOT kick people out alone. They need the rest of the group to also agree. In which case, the person being kicked likely deserved it anyways.

• Initiating a kick (or taking part in one), automatically applies a cooldown on the person kicking. Simply put, if you vote to kick somebody, you can not do it again for a time. When that time is up, if you do it again, the next cooldown will be even longer. I've heard of it going as high as 8 hours before the person can take part in a vote kick again.

• Kicking absolutely 100% can NOT be done while in combat, shortly after combat, or with loot being rolled on.

You haven't played many MMOs with this in then. In WOW and Rift it's an everyday event that a mainly-guild run /kicks non-members just before the last boss .. or even in the fight itself .. the 'community' here will be no different.

I can't speak for Rift, but as for WoW, it's not even possible to do so (as I outlined above). In my 5+ years of playing, it has never been an issue in LFR (for as long as it has been around anyways), and very VERY few times has it happened in a dungeon.

If you've been on the receiving end of the kicks however... well, I can safely say that it's not a problem with the system. And with comments like this, I can guarantee that it was working as intended:

SE forget (if they ever knew) that the NA/EU playerbase is riddled by anti-social jerks who exploit and abuse anything and anyone for their own ends

[Billie21]

Well, ok, it can be abused, but it will take a significant amount of effort to do so if they implement it properly. Lets take a page out of Blizzards book:

• In all content, it's a "majority wins" system. However, there is a condition to this: If the group is a premade, they can NOT vote kick somebody by themselves. If 3 guildies queue for a 5 man dungeon and they all vote kick (3 of 5, so majority), it will NOT kick the person unless the 4th vote also says kick. This applies 25 man LFR content as well.

• In LFR, 5 unique people outside of a premade all need to first choose the option to kick before the vote will even appear to the rest of the group. The same rule applies to premades, as they themselves can NOT kick people out alone. They need the rest of the group to also agree. In which case, the person being kicked likely deserved it anyways.

• Initiating a kick (or taking part in one), automatically applies a cooldown on the person kicking. Simply put, if you vote to kick somebody, you can not do it again for a time. When that time is up, if you do it again, the next cooldown will be even longer. I've heard of it going as high as 8 hours before the person can take part in a vote kick again.

• Kicking absolutely 100% can NOT be done while in combat, shortly after combat, or with loot being rolled on.

What you describe seems like a well-though system that would actually be usefull while limitting abuse. I'd love to see something like this here.
I'm not sure I trust SE to make something as clever, though (sadfully).

But I guess it's pointless to fall into cynism, all we can do is wait and see.