Thread: Are we getting a Vote Kick on 2.1?

Originally Posted by Zaiken

The way they said is somewhat confusing. They say it will be implemented, but you can only vote when the person is DC, or AFK? Or it is everyone can vote and kick a player now?

I hope the Vote Kick is never in place though, there is so much abused that do it more harm then good. Like kicking people for watching Cut Scence, being a bit undergear, kicking people until they get a People with Relic, FC or Friends Que up and kicking people right when boss drop items, etc. or just being an ass.

From what I understood during the LIVE Letter, there will be a way to kick people who are DC/AFK. He didn't say that it would be all the time, and there will be vote system to enact the kick.

However I disagree that vote kick is abused on a general basis. In most MMO's I've played, there always was a kick feature, and I've seen it abused much, much less than not. Really. Personally, I really don't think I deserve to be kicked generally because I make a point of being polite, explain things to others if they ask, wait for my group, etc etc. I also try not to suck when playing In my 10+ years of MMORPG, I must have been kicked out of a group like 4 or 5 times, usually by a group of people who didn't like me, and in one case I admit I was just not playing well (I still don't think it's OK to kick a newbie but at least I know why it happened, the 3 or 4 others times were just abusive). In more than TEN YEARS of MMORPG, 5 times maximum.

However in this game, seeing how many people behave, the sheer amount of jerkiness, I really can't tell. I'm still puzzled that the Final Fantasy community isn't nicer, because I thought that given the ingenuity of this franchise mechanics and game systems (especially solo titles), the positive values and philosophy of the stories, as well as the generally "nice" ring that FF fans have in real life when I met some of them here and there, well… I really thought FF fans were much nicer than many other communities. But nope, it's a CoD-LoL level. I'm quite disappointed, a bit sad about that.

Like for instance, Star Wars, with its very manichean and cocky spirit, I'm not surprised to meet jerks in the Star Wars community (they just 'fit' within the lore, Sith's lack of empathy, Jedi's condescendance, absolute 'good' versus absolute 'evil', when you admire such things it may say a lot about you, you know?); but the Star Trek community, given the values of these stories and the characters? Hell Yeah, the Star Trek community is just about the best I've known. Really really nice people on average. Tolerance, open-minded, great common sense, aware of this world's pains… The LOTR community is quite nice too, for that matter. Even WoW's community, that people like to tout as the worst of all, just isn't. Really. It's nowhere near as bad as it is here, seriously (played Vanilla, BC, a bit of Cata and a bit of MoP).

I'd have expected more of a "Star Trek feeling" than a Star Wars one here. Sadly, I guess I was very, very wrong about that.

Am I digressing? Yeah, a bit. haha. Well my point was that I never feared a kick feature but here… I don't know. It's probably a good idea to put many restrictions on it.

Originally Posted by Elim

I think the FF14 community is overall more jerky because we DON'T have a kick option yet. People know they can troll the duty finder(AFK forever, insult till people leave so they get a 15min lockout, pull mobs then let them kill people, etc) without getting in trouble. At least it seems like they wont. Not sure if SE cracks down on them afterwards, but the trollers get their fun with no immediate threat or punishment for their actions.

Actually, pretty sure it is the fact of there being a multi-world DF where people can do things without reputational consequence.

Originally Posted by Keyblade

Yes lets add kicking to a already broken game . To just annoy the very few people left playing...

Few HUNDRED thousand, get out if you do not like it the game is the best new MMO I have ever played, AND I PLAYED SINCE EQ1!

Originally Posted by Harmonium

And i know what you will tell me, if you are with 7 friend, and you want kick the 8th guys at the end. Well, i don't know, maybe try to do something on this, but vote kick should be there.

I've been against a kick function so far for the reason you are mentionning amongst others.
But there might be ways to mitigate this specific abuse by not allowing use of votekick if the majority of players are "Friends" or FC-mates (in the case if the kick would be a majority vote).

In any case, it has already been announced that a kick function would come. Hopefully, "with restrictions" won't be dumb restrictions that leave vast room for abuse and/or make it useless.