LOL@ Yoshi P's response to why Coil raiders should do Crystal Tower

[TrystWildkey]

I think I just figured something out.

The people complaining that 2.1 offers no new content....

What they really mean is that it offers no higher level equipment rewards.

These are not players who have successfully cleared Twintania. They're just players who farm the first 4 turns for gear. They're players who don't actually want to play and experience the game, they just want to receive the high level gear.

*shrug*

Too bad. Guess 2.1 offers nothing for you.

Now, if you're actually interested in playing the game, I think you should take a look at the entire video of the live letter, because there is a crap-ton of stuff to actually play through

[Tupsi]

I think I just figured something out.

The people complaining that 2.1 offers no new content....

The only "new" content would be the Lighthouse and Pre-CT Dungeon - The grand majority (Moogle, Extreme Mode, Hard Mode Dungeons, Crystal Tower) are delayed content, thus not "new" in the grand scheme of things. People who didn't play ARR yet won't know that it was delayed content unless they research.

The rest? Depending on the depth of the storyline and if you consider quests and tome farming as content, it may not be 'new' either since it's not an expansion pack and highly unlikely they're adding a ton of new areas to the game in 2.1. So no, it's not about the rewards, it's the fact the "new content" largely isn't new at all. They're distractions, sure.

[Billie21]

The only "new" content would be the Lighthouse and Pre-CT Dungeon - The grand majority (Moogle, Extreme Mode, Hard Mode Dungeons, Crystal Tower) are delayed content, thus not "new" in the grand scheme of things. People who didn't play ARR yet won't know that it was delayed content unless they research.

The rest? Depending on the depth of the storyline and if you consider quests and tome farming as content, it may not be 'new' either since it's not an expansion pack and highly unlikely they're adding a ton of new areas to the game in 2.1. So no, it's not about the rewards, it's the fact the "new content" largely isn't new at all. They're distractions, sure.

To me "content" means "things to do in game". It includes (but is not limited to) quests, mobs to battle, areas to explore.
- I don't consider the addition of tome rewards to already existing dungeons "content", but rather "adjustment". I don't consider the raising of ilvl on gear that was already ingame "content" either, but "adjustment", too.
- I consider new boss, new dungeon and new quests "content".

This patch does bring content (call it "new" or "delay" whatever).
It just doesn't bring endgame content (aparently).

[TrystWildkey]

The only "new" content would be the Lighthouse and Pre-CT Dungeon - The grand majority (Moogle, Extreme Mode, Hard Mode Dungeons, Crystal Tower) are delayed content, thus not "new" in the grand scheme of things. People who didn't play ARR yet won't know that it was delayed content unless they research.

The rest? Depending on the depth of the storyline and if you consider quests and tome farming as content, it may not be 'new' either since it's not an expansion pack and highly unlikely they're adding a ton of new areas to the game in 2.1. So no, it's not about the rewards, it's the fact the "new content" largely isn't new at all. They're distractions, sure.

If there was an expansion pack scheduled, but it was then delayed, would that mean that the expansion doesn't count as new content? o.O

Also, it appears that you only consider content 'new' if it is a full expansion, including new areas. Really?