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    Drakkur's Avatar
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    Drakkur Vextorian
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    BRDs are a top DPS class, but i think there is an inherent issue with either the race Miqo'te or the +1 bow. On twintania i consistently parse 250-270 single target (depending if my raid needs me to hold back to not screw the rotation, i only have 3 pieces of ilvl90 myth (BiS), crafted boots and rest DL, NO +1). I do this on every fight.

    Our Miqo'te, who is way more geared than I am, by almost 50 Crit rating has +1 and min/maxed, also just as good as player and more experienced. He parses about the same DPS sometimes less, which shouldn't even be possible. I've traced it to Crit %, his is 17% mine is 33% (out of 20-30 twintania parses). I think there is a flaw in either the race and how stats are calculated for that race the Miqo'te. I'm a Wildwood btw (so i have 1 more dex, but that doesnt mean anything).

    Every Miqo'te i've raided with has had consistently lower crit % on parses.

    I don't know what is attributed to the lower crit exactly, but it is a major issue.
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    Fira Foxx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakkur View Post
    BRDs are a top DPS class,
    I still think the myth of this statement comes from HM Titan because BRD does not lose dmg while moving from plumes and the like. On average from other BRD's I've asked they do on average of 190 - 250 dps with mix of myth, coil, and DL gear. SMN and DRG seem to do that much dps with half the gear.
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakkur View Post
    BRDs are a top DPS class, but i think there is an inherent issue with either the race Miqo'te or the +1 bow. On twintania i consistently parse 250-270 single target.
    Top dps? in terms of DoW they are dead last and throw in a good mages and bard might drop to 4th. As for the rest, if you do 250-270 there is a high chance that you will pull off of a tank, just saying because at 220 I even steal from the tanks who have full i90 and +1 weapons. My miqo'te is of the moon so I have the +1 to mage stats but have a crit rate of 35% average.
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    Rhaine Faithslight
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseWolfHolo View Post
    Top dps? in terms of DoW they are dead last and throw in a good mages and bard might drop to 4th. As for the rest, if you do 250-270 there is a high chance that you will pull off of a tank, just saying because at 220 I even steal from the tanks who have full i90 and +1 weapons. My miqo'te is of the moon so I have the +1 to mage stats but have a crit rate of 35% average.
    Sounds like totally made up numbers to me, a bard, poorly geared, with 250-270 dps on turn 5? yea.... right....

    And he thinks BRD is top dps class, im not sure hes even been in coils at all.
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    Drakkur Vextorian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhained View Post
    Sounds like totally made up numbers to me, a bard, poorly geared, with 250-270 dps on turn 5? yea.... right....

    And he thinks BRD is top dps class, im not sure hes even been in coils at all.
    Lol ok, not terribly geared, but i have all the parses to prove it, and an entire group to back me up. I pull regularly 250+ depending on BL procs (if my play is absolutely horrid and i fuck up a rotation i do 230-240), i raid with one of the top guilds (Pantheon <EON>) on the server (Siren), if not the best. So, instead of refuting a player's ability to excel, how about consider how they are able to achieve it, attempt to replicate or ask them how to they achieved it. Dogmatic approach to maximizing your play will only hinder you in the end, be open minded. The only time my DPS drops on T5 are the dive bombs, but the 3 snakes dropping bring it back up when you spread out your dots.
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    Leon Stormrage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakkur View Post
    . I pull regularly 250+
    Something is bad with your number man, is not way that you can parse that damage with your current equipment... that's all. No way.
    Maybe your parser is not working properly (I didn't fight T5 so I really don't know if one bard can stay all the fight pew pew Twintania but your numbers seems overrated to me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon_Stormrage View Post
    Something is bad with your number man, is not way that you can parse that damage with your current equipment... that's all. No way.
    Maybe your parser is not working properly (I didn't fight T5 so I really don't know if one bard can stay all the fight pew pew Twintania but your numbers seems overrated to me)
    FF14 app like everyone else, and I have had two different guilds and many people metaphorically crap their pants when they see it on their parser pop up. Stop blaming the game, even the spreadsheet easymode shows that 250 is possible with a perfect rotation with less Dex than i have and less crit. Stop saying its not possible, because it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakkur View Post
    FF14 app like everyone else, and I have had two different guilds and many people metaphorically crap their pants when they see it on their parser pop up. Stop blaming the game, even the spreadsheet easymode shows that 250 is possible with a perfect rotation with less Dex than i have and less crit. Stop saying its not possible, because it is.
    It would be great if you show us that spreadsheet because like I said before it is not possible with your current equipment.
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    Thailer Appleseed
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakkur View Post
    Lol ok, not terribly geared, but i have all the parses to prove it, and an entire group to back me up. I pull regularly 250+ depending on BL procs (if my play is absolutely horrid and i fuck up a rotation i do 230-240), i raid with one of the top guilds (Pantheon <EON>) on the server (Siren), if not the best. So, instead of refuting a player's ability to excel, how about consider how they are able to achieve it, attempt to replicate or ask them how to they achieved it. Dogmatic approach to maximizing your play will only hinder you in the end, be open minded. The only time my DPS drops on T5 are the dive bombs, but the 3 snakes dropping bring it back up when you spread out your dots.
    Sure let us see that parse
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    Drakkur Vextorian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailer View Post
    Sure let us see that parse
    Sunday when we are back to doing T5, i'll get them to you. If you're in an emergency for this data, want a 5 min parse of a target dummy? What stipulations? No Piecing debuff, take ME out of my macro on a lvl 50 dummy? How about just log on to siren and we can sit next to a dummy in a group and you run your parser (my name is Drakkur Vextorian).
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