I'm sad to see this game going the same route as SWTOR.

[Reslin]

1.4 MIL to 600K, you're right, you didn't lose 500k, you lost more.

BTW sources for your claims please, you always make that claim but never source it.

1.4 million box copies sold. Those aren't subscribers. State your source that these people actually subscribed to the game before they stopped playing. Do you even know what a subscriber is? Also source incoming. My memory was fuzzy it's right here. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...since-february so I was wrong how long since release before subs dropped. I'll admit that.

[flavored]

Wait, amazing story? Could you please be more specific what part of it AMAZED you?

[Seig345]

Please, please please please PLEASE tell me you aren't under the impression that Crystal Tower is 'new' content...

Of course it's skippable, but it was also meant to be there from launch, they just withheld it because they didn't have it ready in time. It's not new content, this isn't the 'next' thing, it's putting in place what was supposed to be there on day one. 2.2 will contain the next step for Binding Coil. This is in no way indicative that content patches will take steps backwards. 2.1 contains something that belongs -before- the final step because of a delay, not because they intentionally 'took a step back'.

There seem to be people who are looking at CT's iLvl 80 status and freaking out, throwing out wild assumptions such as that every other patch will be an in-between step rather than a step forward, over a 1-time circumstance with a dungeon.

[Incredible]

1.4 million bo copies sold. Those aren't subscribers. State your source that these people actually subscribed to the game before they stopped playing. Do you even know what a subscriber is? Also source incoming.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02...ats-financial/

[Update: Darth Hater has compiled some additional TOR-related statistics and Q&A from today's EA earnings call: "2,000,000+ copies sold, 40% sold through Origin; 1,700,000+ active subscribers, 1 million concurrent." The company also notes that "Active subscribers means anyone paying OR in their trial period. MOST of those 1.7m are paying at this point."]

[Ferth]

Wait, amazing story? Could you please be more specific what part of it AMAZED you?

I was kind of amazed at how stupidly easy Livia, Nero and Gaius were...

[Borfin]

Wait, amazing story? Could you please be more specific what part of it AMAZED you?

**SPOILERS**
I quite enjoyed the stories of the Scions and the contentions with Cid and Lahabrea. The endless fetch quests got a little tiresome, but it was nice to have a MMO whose story I actually cared about.

The story was why I couldn't put it down all the way to 50.

Please, please please please PLEASE tell me you aren't under the impression that Crystal Tower is 'new' content...

Of course it's skippable, but it was also meant to be there from launch, they just withheld it because they didn't have it ready in time. It's not new content, this isn't the 'next' thing, it's putting in place what was supposed to be there on day one. 2.2 will contain the next step for Binding Coil. This is in no way indicative that content patches will take steps backwards. 2.1 contains something that belongs -before- the final step because of a delay, not because they intentionally 'took a step back'.

There seem to be people who are looking at CT's iLvl 80 status and freaking out, throwing out wild assumptions such as that every other patch will be an in-between step rather than a step forward, over a 1-time circumstance with a dungeon.

It doesn't matter what they intended. The fact is they're releasing tier 1 content after people are already tier 2 geared. An easy fix would be to up the ilevel and stats, but SE doesn't seem interested in doing that. That's going to cause problems with finding groups and maintaining intended difficulty to say nothing of gear. People will get bored, SE WILL lose subscribers and for a game this new they can't take that chance. It may very well be a death sentence for the MMO, especially since the biggest contender in the genre is upping their game to match SE's example. That's the problem here.

Whether they intended it to be new or not, CT IS new content, and it will be largely skipped because of their choices with gear progression.

[amnie]

I love topics like these. they are usually by people who haven't touched SWTOR in at least a year. (and there is plenty of content in SWTOR, so if ARR is going 'the same route' ARR will be freaking amazing)

[SynMaris]

1.4 million box copies sold. Those aren't subscribers. State your source that these people actually subscribed to the game before they stopped playing. Do you even know what a subscriber is? Also source incoming. My memory was fuzzy it's right here. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...since-february so I was wrong how long since release before subs dropped. I'll admit that.

I'm talking about your FFXIV numbers bro, the ones you keep throwing out there.

[NyneAlexander]

speaking of swtor, it'd be nice if we had a PVP queue in FFXIV.

[Seig345]

[...] It doesn't matter what they intended. The fact is they're releasing tier 1 content after people are already tier 2 geared. An easy fix would be to up the ilevel and stats, [...]

So you're saying that they should have started CT off with iLvl 90+ gear for drops? You make it sound like the dungeon isn't intended to be added onto over time with more and more difficult segments with higher rewards...