Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Nuru]

thats why i think each class will have multiple jobs it can eventualy unlock
so thats definately not out of the picture

and some will have cross class jobs(probly have to unlock it on EACH class seperately too)

So in other words.. White Mage Unlocked + Monk Unlocked = White Monk Quest Available.

Each job should actually have lore that explains why they are not exactly guilds, but more like they are forms of battle that were taught and used by the Grand Companies during times of war. Jobs are advanced war techniques that allow one to focus and become more efficient in large groups.

Drawing conclusions from semantics on a translated message is not a very reliable analysis. Hence, we don't have enough information to make that conclusion.

Back to Cairdeas's point that becoming a monk doesn't automatically make you not a pugilist:
If the job replaces the class, then it's likely jobs can use more than one weapon type. If jobs are added to the class, then it's unlikely jobs can use more than one weapon type. Cairdeas should hope he's wrong about that.

The confusing thing is this: You are putting Jobs first before you are considering the Class/Weapon you are using.

This is a simple way to understand that Jobs will not replace Class.

You are using a hand-to-hand weapon. You are a Pugilist.

Since you are a Pugilist, you can select the Role as a Monk.

You are now a Pugilist, performing as a Monk.

Being a Monk isn't more important than the weapon you use. In fact, its the weapon you use that is important to your role as a Monk.

You equip a Battle Staff. You are a Stavesman.

You want to perform the Role as a Monk.

You are now a Stavesman, performing as a Monk.

That is pretty much how it would work if multiple classes were able to perform as Monk.

[TheVedis]

So in other words.. White Mage Unlocked + Monk Unlocked = White Monk Quest Available.

Each job should actually have lore that explains why they are not exactly guilds, but more like they are forms of battle that were taught and used by the Grand Companies during times of war. Jobs are advanced war techniques that allow one to focus and become more efficient in large groups.

no i meant where Con may have a white mage unlock
thm may have a seperate white mage unlock
monk may have its own support/healing unlock(though i dont see why it would personaly)

[Cairdeas]

no i meant where Con may have a white mage unlock
thm may have a seperate white mage unlock
monk may have its own support/healing unlock(though i dont see why it would personaly)

Because one of the core tenantes of most of the past monks has been healing the party using their spiritual powers.

[SuzakuCMX]

Because one of the core tenantes of most of the past monks has been healing the party using their spiritual powers.

? In I and V at least they had the highest damage (and hit twice per turn) and could heal themselves. They also had the "Kick" ability which dealt less damage, but to all enemies.

Don't remember MONKS healing anyone else in the party, though.

[TheVedis]

? In I and V at least they had the highest damage (and hit twice per turn) and could heal themselves. They also had the "Kick" ability which dealt less damage, but to all enemies.

Don't remember MONKS healing anyone else in the party, though.

in 11 they had a healing ability, a single, healing ability

[Nuru]

no i meant where Con may have a white mage unlock
thm may have a seperate white mage unlock
monk may have its own support/healing unlock(though i dont see why it would personaly)

Ah i see. Or perhaps when you quest for certain abilities for your Job, you can specialize it, and the "White Monk" won't actually be the job, but can have separate Artifact armors that will significantly enhance certain Abilities.

[TheVedis]

Ah i see. Or perhaps when you quest for certain abilities for your Job, you can specialize it, and the "White Monk" won't actually be the job, but can have separate Artifact armors that will significantly enhance certain Abilities.

well specialization is what jobs are all about

[Nuru]

well specialization is what jobs are all about

Exactly, and there are so many ways to specialize in different areas with the same equipped weapon. Though, I do believe that abilities from White Monk or Black Belt should be locked out because that would be like building Armory System Tier 2.

[TheVedis]

Exactly, and there are so many ways to specialize in different areas with the same equipped weapon. Though, I do believe that abilities from White Monk or Black Belt should be locked out because that would be like building Armory System Tier 2.

jobs will have exclusive abilities, this we know for a fact
we also know being on a job will lock out certain abilities too

[Nuru]

jobs will have exclusive abilities, this we know for a fact
we also know being on a job will lock out certain abilities too

Yeah but i'm speaking more along the lines of Cross-Job abilities, even if the Job is tied to the same Weapon Class.

I'm not willing to see another Armory System pop up. lol