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    There is a guy who shouts to sell Titan a lot and says in his shout over 400+ satisfied customers. I for one don't think we need people selling coil runs all day too. Totally defeats the purpose of end game and you know that people will be shouting to sell coil runs a lot if you could go in more then once even if you didn't get items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    There is a guy who shouts to sell Titan a lot and says in his shout over 400+ satisfied customers. I for one don't think we need people selling coil runs all day too. Totally defeats the purpose of end game and you know that people will be shouting to sell coil runs a lot if you could go in more then once even if you didn't get items.
    Pretty sure those people are lying. I see the sellers all the time saying they have run hundreds through. I find that very unlikely.
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    Adding that system would make it an extremely effective way to sell coil runs and gear people out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowhere2Be View Post
    Adding that system would make it an extremely effective way to sell coil runs and gear people out.
    The people who've run Coil since launch and not got a single piece of gear would say otherwise.

    This is such an absolutely stupid argument. This potential "issue" exists in the majority of MMOs, is it a problem in those? NO! So why make the game worse by decreasing the potential content just because a few people could purchase their way through a Coil run (and chances are, get zero loot).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    The people who've run Coil since launch and not got a single piece of gear would say otherwise.
    Didn't you see other posts? Shouts like "10 mil for a coil run, you get ALL drops" would happen. At least they'd be guaranteed 8 drops of gear. Even if they couldn't currently use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    The people who've run Coil since launch and not got a single piece of gear would say otherwise.

    This is such an absolutely stupid argument. This potential "issue" exists in the majority of MMOs, is it a problem in those? NO! So why make the game worse by decreasing the potential content just because a few people could purchase their way through a Coil run (and chances are, get zero loot).
    The issue is prevalent in other games. That's why WoW's Raid Finder is instanced seperately to prevent such a problem, they knew the potential threat. You can run a raid as many times as you want in WoW(Only Raid Finder) But you can't carry other people to get gear because there is no 100% confirmed drop rate for items, all gear is internally rolled for each player to prevent farming. If FFXIV did a similar system it would work, but I personally feel this game shouldn't go the route of WoW for obvious reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    Didn't you see other posts? Shouts like "10 mil for a coil run, you get ALL drops" would happen. At least they'd be guaranteed 8 drops of gear. Even if they couldn't currently use it.
    ...Urgh, just go away. The fact that you even suggest that enough people can generate millions of gil every week just to purchase Coil runs to create an issue is just laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    ...Urgh, just go away. The fact that you even suggest that enough people can generate millions of gil every week just to purchase Coil runs to create an issue is just laughable.
    The fact that you think people won't spend money for coil runs is laughable. it will happen. Look at Titan Runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    ...Urgh, just go away. The fact that you even suggest that enough people can generate millions of gil every week just to purchase Coil runs to create an issue is just laughable.
    I doubt it would really be as high as 10 million, but runs WOULD happen. To say they wouldn't would be naive. And people CAN make millions of gil every week, it all depends on how much you play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowhere2Be View Post
    The fact that you think people won't spend money for coil runs is laughable. it will happen. Look at Titan Runs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    I doubt it would really be as high as 10 million, but runs WOULD happen. To say they wouldn't would be naive. And people CAN make millions of gil every week, it all depends on how much you play.
    ...Where did I say no one would?

    You people don't seem to understand that the chance of getting no loot in Coil is high, so high in fact that you can go months without any loot. Also, the cost of running people through this would be extremely high, so high that a very small percentile of players could purchase a run. This is nothing like Titan.

    Urgh, why the hell do I even have to explain this, use some common fricking sense. The issue would be so pathetically small it would AFFECT NO ONE. God, I try not to get annoyed with people on this forum, but when people actively try to kill the game with their stupid suggestions it annoys the heck out of me.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 11-23-2013 at 10:30 AM.


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